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Big E Speakers Part 4 - Quadraphenia

So I got my MAS112 w/Faital 4ohm today and WOW! There's not much I can say that you guys don't already know. Still haven't had that much time with it of course.
I've been testing it with a Demeter 201 and a Fatboy DI with a Stewart 1.2. Tomorrow Ill have a Low End True Voice.

I'm relieved at how small it actually is. It looks bigger in the photos to me.
Well, I better get back to breaking this thing in :bassist:
If I end up placing another order from Mike for a cab I think an MAS112 with the Faital like this would be it. From what I've read the Faital is a little fatter in the lows and not quite as upper mid forward as the 18 Sound but still with a strong percussive punch and well balanced mids. Does this square with what you hear? I'm into rock, R&B, funk, blues, and country and have a Demeter VTBP-800D.
 
If I end up placing another order from Mike for a cab I think an MAS112 with the Faital like this would be it. From what I've read the Faital is a little fatter in the lows and not quite as upper mid forward as the 18 Sound but still with a strong percussive punch and well balanced mids. Does this square with what you hear? I'm into rock, R&B, funk, blues, and country and have a Demeter VTBP-800D.

I've literally only had a couple hours on it and that was just noodling around to a drum machine.

When I get home tonight I'll be able to turn it up a bit (the wife won't be home to tell me to turn down) and play along to the styles you mentioned and I'll get back to you.

Also Sunday I'll be playing it with a band

But maybe others with more experience with the cab will chime in.
 
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Just curious if anybody else is using an F deck (or other) high pass filter with their MAS cabs. I always used mine in the past, but Im not convinced that my flex 210 really needs that kind of filtering.

When I was using an Aggie TH500 to push my MAS112 (with 18sound) I used Fdeck's hpf, but that was because I needed to push the amp hard at gig volume (bar band, vocals only in the PA). Only got ~250 watts, and wanted to make sure I wasn't using amp power up on subsonics.

Switched to a GK MB800, and didn't need the hpf anymore because that amp had all the power I need into 8 ohms.

IOW, the cab didn't need it; the bottom is nicely controlled and tight.
 
Acoustically the bass sounds very nice for an economy ply, hence the purchase. Unfortunately, the G string notes especially die with every pickup I've tried. Using a blast cult pickup now. It's awesome live...
I am not so versed in the mysteries of pickups and mics. Got a Bassmax for a kid to play his half size upright in jazz band at school. Seems fairly even a first blush - nothing obviously off, anyway - and the tone is decent enough with some EQing, if obviously "electrified". Then again, it's being played through a Traynor combo. Want to try it with my fdeck, actually, and see if it helps, both as an HPF and by presenting a more suitable impedance to the pickup.
 
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I am not so versed in the mysteries of pickups and mics. Got a Bassmax for a kid to play his half size upright in jazz band at school. Seems fairly even a first blush - nothing obviously off, anyway - and the tone is decent enough with some EQing, if obviously "electrified". Then again, it's being played through a Traynor combo. Want to try it with my fdeck, actually, and see if it helps, both as an HPF and by presenting a more suitable impedance to the pickup.

I have an fdeck and it is great, however, my fishman platinum pro pre does everything I need filter and impedance wise. In my experience, it really comes down mostly to the bass, not the electronics. Some do great on an amp, some will fight you all night. Getting in the PA is huge. Trying to carry the whole room with a cab can be dicey... The 109 is really amazing. I'm getting a ton of gain before feedback compared to conventional ported cabs, very nice!
 
If I end up placing another order from Mike for a cab I think an MAS112 with the Faital like this would be it. From what I've read the Faital is a little fatter in the lows and not quite as upper mid forward as the 18 Sound but still with a strong percussive punch and well balanced mids. Does this square with what you hear? I'm into rock, R&B, funk, blues, and country and have a Demeter VTBP-800D.

In a word....Yes. Of course I cant compare it to the 18 Sound but this cab with Faital has a very FAT low end and balanced mids and "a strong percussive punch" is an understatement.
Yet if I wanted a more aggressive upper mid sound all I had to do was dial it in. It all depends on where you want your starting point to be.

Ill get a band mix experience on Sunday......
 
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So, 2 days after I wanted to post a review of the MAS 115 prototype, I finally am getting around to it (insert bass player timing joke here)! Since I get impatient with these things, let’s start at the end.


Overall Review:

A well-built, serious cab for large volume needs. I really hope this makes it into production as it is a serious beast. It projects evenly everywhere and adds some real force to notes. That being said, as Mike and Steve have warned, this is not a cab for small rooms. It needs to really get going to sound its best. It doesn’t sound bad at low volumes, but it really comes alive once you let it put out some volume. I am probably going to order another smaller cab at some point so I don’t scare every venue that we go to. I'm not sure if I can disclose how much I payed for it since it was just a prototype, but Mike described what it would sell for if it were produced normally and I think it is a very reasonable price point. These cabs, in my opinion, very much live up to their hype regarding their performance. Also, for anyone thinking about the 215…. You’re crazy. I can’t even fathom what double the volume of this thing would sound like.


Construction:

¾” ply shell, 6 cross firing Faital mids, 1 18sound 15”, tilt back handle, casters, 3 t-bone handles, partial grill, duratex coating. This cab feels very solid. The finish is excellent and everything feels like it is well secured and nicely put together.


Form Factor:

Dimensions are 19” wide (just a hair shy of rack width), 42” tall, and 24” deep and it weighs 90 pounds. These are admittedly a bit on the odd side. I don’t think I’ve played a cab that was deeper than it was wide, but it works out much better than I had expected. With the tilt back handle bar, it is super easy to move around, however it will have a tough time with some corners as with any large cab. The weight is really shocking considering the size of the cab. 90lbs is by no means featherweight, but it is still manageable if you need to lift it by yourself. I was able to just barely fit the MAS115 in the backseat of a 97 Honda Accord with a lot of effort.


Sound Up Close:

This thing is scary with how well it takes to loud volumes. The more volume I gave it, the better it sounded and it showed no signs of stress when the clip lights started to illuminate on my Crest Pro Lite 2.0 (bridged). It sounded pretty mid forward when I was right on top of the cab, but not at all in a bad way. There is some really scary low end potential in this cab. We play one song where I have to tune my Ric to a low B. I have never heard the low B sound anywhere near as solid as it did going through this cab and, considering that my Ric isn’t particularly good at being tuned that low, I am seriously impressed. Even going further up the fret board, the notes feel like they have more weight than they ever did before. It also has some outright astonishing clariy. Each note is much more distinct and it takes fuzz and dirt like a champ. I could really hear a lot of the nuances of my different dirts better than I have been able to with other cabs. The cab also took to the EQ on the Monique very well. Like Mike’s other cabs, the 115 has that uncanney ability to conquor a really difficult and boomy room. It made practice much more enjoyable. It never felt like it was trampling the mix, no matter how loud it got. So. Cool.


Sound Further Away:

So, Friday I ended up backlining the cab for the entire night. The first bassist using the cab was playing a Fender Jaguar with a pick into my Monique / Crest rig. The bass was pulled from the PA and the MAS115 carried the entire room with ease. Given Alex’s bass and style, it worked out being a very mid range punchy sound. The sound stayed even throughout the room. The next bassist used an SVT Classic with the MAS115. He also rotated the cab so it was at a 45 degree angle to blast directly at him on the other side of the stage. He was playing a Fender Jazz with his fingers. His tone is more low end focused than mine and he does get a great sound. The MAS115, even at an angle for pretty much the entire audience, dispersed very evenly throughout the room and kept his mid range much more intact than it should have been. The bass was very present and even throughout the entire room. Again, even with a bassier tone at an angle, the MAS115 kept a ton of clarity in the room.

This thing will be residing in Jersey City and will be out on the road quite a bit this year for anyone who wants to check it out.
 
Thanks , man. Every time I come up with something new and someone takes a chance and buys one---I get pretty anxious--hoping that they'd dig it.And the hardest thing for me is designing a cab that has a different sonic profile than I would typically use. Whew!! I feel better now.

Dude--I want a picture of that in your Honda for my website! If someone would have asked if it would fit in the back seat of an Accord---I'd say no f-ing way!

Fun weekend at the Gerald Veasley Bass thing in Philly and stopping at Tom Bowlus's and doing a "gear hang".TBH---I'm always skeptical of guys being able to hear subtle differences between gear, but the Tomster is the real deal. He really hears and can articulate the subtle differences between gear Very fun hang!
 
Well, suddenly, I'm back to practicing with the old Cafe Walter for a while. I thoroughly enjoyed the 18sound 112 every time I played with it, but it is a bit more than I need for the rooms I play. I decided to offer it up for sale and use the proceeds for another Flex 110 which gets its vortexitude on quicker. Instead of days of thread monitoring and question responding, it sold in hours. Oh well, I can handle only getting my vortex fix once or twice a week for a little while... :cool:
 
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Instead of days of thread monitoring and question responding, it sold in hours. Oh well, I can handle only getting my vortex fix once or twice a week for a little while... :cool:

Yeah, I saw that right after you posted it and would have jumped on it myself, but I already paid Mike for a 112LPT that will hopefully be heading my way soon. My neighbors probably don't miss it the vortexitude, but I do.
 
It's a good thing I'm out in the country and the neighbors aren't too close. :eek: Originally, I was thinking about a 109 to get me closer to the performance of the Flex 110 to replace the single E140 cab I'd been using for playing at home. Having enjoyed a pleasant diversion with the 112, I'm looking forward to Plan C, being able to play through my new 'reference' speaker in the sanctuary and my living/bass room. :D
 
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Y'all I have to say after having almost all Mike's cabs I have really settled on the MAS 66 with a 110 Sub on the bottom.
It is so right in the midrange and driver integration plus it gives some of the slam of the 210 flex.
You Nailed the crossover on the 66 man! It sounds like a giant hifi rig!

I have an MAS 66 (and several other cabs) at my house right now, and I have to agree. That 66 is amazing! Very balanced presentation from top to bottom. The low B sounds so very full and natural, but not at the expense of the mids. Very impressive! :thumbsup:
 
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