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Big E speakers: Pt 2

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5StringPocket said:
You really seem to believe in and back your work Mike. Outstanding customer service!
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Yes indeed, and then some. Mike consistently went the extra mile for customers that we shared, with his composite Thunderchild 115 and 212 builds. He even ate screw-ups that were my fault. Since he no longer accepts orders for composite cabs, I guess we're no longer officially "partners" in the bass cab world... but neither are we very good at acting like competitors!

It is in Mike's nature to be part of the solution rather than part of the problem, and in my experience that characteristic of his is not limited to "customer service". He meets problems head-on and is compassionate in dealing with people, and genuinely works his @$$ off. He sets a magnificent example for me all around.

And another thing - Mike downplays his own techinical side and role in the design/refine process, but his choices are excellent and I go to him for advice and trust his ears-on assessments more than I trust my measuring equipment (which is a lot). I just spend an hour or so on the phone with him picking his brain over speaker design relative to the home audio side of my little business.
 
#322
Thanks, Duke. He and I are helping brainstorm for eachother all the time. A lot of kudos go to Talkbass---so many cool relationships formed and the ability for a small manufacturer to help get products to market. I think I can really say that you wouldn't see bass speakers from Duke or me without Talkbass.
 
#325
I got my troublesome twosome put together today and gave them a whirl. I'll be testing a new (brighter) crossover setting for the repaired 2x6 next to the original run 2x6.

Today I ran my J Worrell 6er through a Headway EDB-1 (channel 1, flat) the PA and into the Big E's after doing a quick playback comparison. The newer crossover sounds more crisp and needs dialed back slightly for flat PA use. However, that translates to a very musical top end articulation with the EB. Mike and I talked a bit on the phone about this before my signal crapped out and he was right, it helps. I found the older design a bit darker but still pleasing. Together they sing. Unfortunately that's also far too loud for my basement's size so I had to call it a day for now. More to come!
 
#326
I got to use the Big E's for a jam last night at One Eyed Jacks, a local bar. It's average size and has two sides with a dividing wall between the bar and seating and the pool side. Last time I played there I was using my massive 300 Pro + JBL E155 Mesa RR cab. I honestly did not think I could have more depth than I did with that rig. I was wrong. I ran my BATT -> PB-1 -> Power amp -> Big E's and it was bass nirvana for that place. I never felt overbearing and slid right under the mix. The takeaways were the massive dynamic capabilities and ridiculous amount of full frequency volume available to me... More to come!
 
#327
Mike really is passionate about pushing the envelope of reproducing bass guitar/URB not only for himself but for other players as well. This definitely shows in his efforts to accommodate his customer's needs & desires. I haven't even received my BigE speaker yet and can't be specific, but he has already proven his flexibility in meeting my needs/wants in a big way. Thanks again in advance, Mike!!!
 
#328
Thanks, all

In response to an earlier request about the 3 way---should have pics in about a week.

Based on the Eminence 3010lf, two Faital 6.5" mids and a Ciare Tweeter

We were going for a very different voicing.Much more powerful/impactful with a less bass warmth but more extension and flatter in the bass range with more midrange "cut" without being too aggressive and very strong highs. It doesn't measure all that different than the 85 but sounds more upfront.There are multiple switches to change cabinet voicing.

The MAS 110 will be very close to a 15" cab in output---and there is a MAS 210.
 
#329
Protoype pics---a note to the mods---if you go a few pages back there was a post asking about the 3 way cab

The prototype was made in two sections. The production cab is one piece with only a single piece of plywood between the sections.

Steve and Tom get pretty goofy---

Ok the switches (which in production will be on a custom printed plate)

phase between the 10 and tops---changes the tonal balance

-12db mellow mids more prominent lows
-6db close to flat
0 db More up-front aggressive mids

Tweeter on/off---actually influences the mids in "off" position

Steve insists on using the military "arming" switches---ya gotta love the look---the red covers are removable.

Once you get used to them they're pretty intuative---it offers MANY cabinet voicings

Size is around 26 x 20 x 14---less than 40#

The upper section does angle back.
 

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#331
Sold a head locally today, and demo'd it through the 48.
Younger player with rounds playing finger and slap. The 48 really did cover the spectrum. I DIG THE WAY THE bIGE Greenboy Alex Duke thunderchild etc designers and the authorized builders are refining and innovating faster than the big companies.
Rock on! Big E 3 way etc. Wild. I dig my 4 eights crossed to 4 tweets. But they are rolling out a 3 way too.
So much nicer than, We have been building our 4x10 or 8x10 for 50 years now, what else could you possibly want
 
#333
Spent the afternoon with the MAS 110Flex as we're calling it.Low to high volume. I am very pleased. I lied about the weight.48#. Not really too bad when you compare it to a 15 or 410. And the size is no bigger (than a 15--smaller than a lot of 15's) and a lot smaller than a 410.

Also---the switches will be for no pad, -3db and -6db. As well as the phase switch. The mids go very high--nearly flat to 8khz. Steve did a cool thing. The switch that turns off the Ciare tweeter also changes the mids to a bit more aggressive voicing. Not a lot but more of an up-front paper cone sound that goes to 8k. Turn the tweet back on and it's flatter mids with extension to 20k.
 
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Mike Arnopol said:
... Steve did a cool thing. The switch that turns off the Ciare tweeter also changes the mids to a bit more aggressive voicing. Not a lot but more of an up-front paper cone sound that goes to 8k. Turn the tweet back on and it's flatter mids with extension to 20k.
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Now that is clever...
How's the output compared to other cabs?
 
#336
Arjank said:
We talked about such a thing before.
One switch to cutt-off the tweeter and bypass the low-pass section of the crossover for the mids(or mid/woofer)
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Yes, but it's the (mid) 'push' dialed in to that setting that makes it a bit different. I mean, just releasing the mid to reach up to it's natural roll-off is not all that is going on here (if I understand it correctly).
 
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mothra2 said:
Yes, but it's the (mid) 'push' dialed in to that setting that makes it a bit different. I mean, just releasing the mid to reach up to it's natural roll-off is not all that is going on here (if I understand it correctly).
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I don't expect it to be a "push" , you can do that in an active circuit but not passive. My guess is that the low-pass in the crossover is bypassed, this will give back all the dirtyness and breakup of the mid-cone.
 
#339
The switch is a good idea. I have one on a Fearless 110, which optionally attenuates the five-inch mid-range driver or leaves it wide open. In my home studio I usually leave it attenuated, but in a live band setting I often flip it open to provide more presence for the mix. Easy, fast way to instantly change the cab's voicing without messing with EQ.

Having two switches will provide more voicing permutations, which potentially might be confusing if you're in a rush. One more thing to "practice" to ensure not accidentally flipping in the wrong voice. What you hear onstage isn't necessarily what they'll hear in the crowd.
 
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