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I have found bikers to be good guys as long as:
Step out side the rules and stuff can happen.
- you're ok too.
- you don't have anything they want.
I have found bikers to be good guys as long as:
Step out side the rules and stuff can happen.
- you're ok too.
- you don't have anything they want.
Speaking as a multiple gun owning Texan, and aside from it being a web portal and search engine I am not entirely certain just what a Yahoo is, I would have to say that the Biker brawl thing in Waco is no different than the gang fights / shootouts that happen all over the major cities across the nation, including in California...
Contrary to the opinions spread by the VERY biased California based media establishment, Texas isn't all cows, oil fields, and rednecks. Some of the nations largest urban areas are in Texas, including Houston (Nations 4th largest city), San Antonio (Nations 7th largest city), Dallas (Nations 9th largest city), Fort Worth (Nations 17th largest), El Paso (Nations 19th largest). Texas matches California for the number of major cities in the nations top 20 (4 each).
I'm afraid we have way too many shootings here, but can't recall the last time nine guys got killed in a brawl over parking spots.
When you think about it, deep violence over inadequate parking sounds a whole lot more Manhattan than Texas…with all of that big, wide-open space, the fellows have to be taking each other out over parking?
Played a biker night at a local bar last night here in Texas.
And guess what?
NOTHING HAPPENED
That's it.
(Well, we made some booties move, but that's it.)
I'm afraid we have way too many shootings here, but can't recall the last time nine guys got killed in a brawl over parking spots.
The last time I saw two grown men have a knock down, drag out fist fight was in the vestibule of a whitey tightey, mainstream church, only about a month ago! One man had recently found out that the other was bonking his wife, and waited until Sunday morning to sucker punch the offender. Ya wanna talk about 'all hell broke loose'! The folks who had invited us apologized profusely, but I told them that we knew it didn't have anything to do with them, or their church. Please keep in mind the wars that have been fought...the people who have died...over arguments concerning God. Do not pretend that 'church' is inherently 'safe'. I don't mean to be THAT GUY but your post seemed a bit sanctimonious to me, and I wanted to balance the scales. I played bars for decades, and apart from the occasional drunk falling down and hurting himself, I have never once seen blood spilled. All hail the good bouncer who is doing his job and nips trouble in the bud. (Bikers have always been cool to me.)Bars and concert venues are not like a church, they are always potentially dangerous and be aware of that.
My grandfather is a pastor and back in the seventies he moved from Macon Ga to Southern CA. One of his first duties at the church in CA was a funeral for a member of the Hells Angels. He said there were a few hundred in attendance and the other pastors refused to handle the funeral because of their reputation anyhow my grandpa did the funeral and had nothing but good things to say about them. They also liked my Grandpa so much as a sign of appreciation they gave him a Fender Lap Steel and an old Randall amp. I still have the guitar.My praise group has played for two biker memorial church services. City police were a little concerned when the church's parking lot was full of motorcycles from four rival gangs. Even though colors were allowed in church, there were no problems at all. They joined together for one common purpose, to memorialize their friends and family who passed away due to gang violence, accidents, drugs, and alcohol abuse. Very emotionally moving ceremonies.
You're not seriously trying to say that biker bar gigs are inherently safer than church gigs, are you?The last time I saw two grown men have a knock down, drag out fist fight was in the vestibule of a whitey tightey, mainstream church, only about a month ago! One man had recently found out that the other was bonking his wife, and waited until Sunday morning to sucker punch the offender. Ya wanna talk about 'all hell broke loose'! The folks who had invited us apologized profusely, but I told them that we knew it didn't have anything to do with them, or their church. Please keep in mind the wars that have been fought...the people who have died...over arguments concerning God. Do not pretend that 'church' is inherently 'safe'. I don't mean to be THAT GUY but your post seemed a bit sanctimonious to me, and I wanted to balance the scales. I played bars for decades, and apart from the occasional drunk falling down and hurting himself, I have never once seen blood spilled. All hail the good bouncer who is doing his job and nips trouble in the bud. (Bikers have always been cool to me.)
Friend Jimmy...that's not what I said...that's not what I tried to say...that's not what I implied. I told a story...a true story...and related it to my experience. That's what I did, and I Yam what I Yam...You're not seriously trying to say that biker bar gigs are inherently safer than church gigs, are you?