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Billie Eilish Grammy Sweep

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Why? She's a big disposable pop star, and that's often who gets a bunch of Grammys.
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Dunno why people forget about Paula Abdul, NSYNC, Boys to Men, Whitney Houston, etc.
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Erm, she's anything but a pop star. She has been writing her own tunes for years and she's only a middle-teenager now.
Huh? How does that not make her a pop star? I hate to split genre hairs, but: It's not rock, jazz, soul, R&B, Hip Hop, blues and so on; and "pop" doesn't exclusively refer to bubblegum. Unless "Soundcloud" is a genre, Eilish is pop. Plenty of people start early, that doesn't mean you're good.

Did she prove her longevity in the past 3 weeks? Winning Grammys certainly doesn't mean you have enough in you to fuel 40 more years of music. Even if she is that talented, audiences are fickle and far from guaranteed to stick around. Christopher Cross comes to mind, but only because he also won 5 Grammys for his debut album, and his star power faded quickly.


She's extremely alternative, most of her stuff is written specifically not to be radio friendly pop stuff.
"Alternative?" Alternative to what? People have written "dark" lyrics and music for decades; Soundcloud is full of music inspired by benzodiazepines and recorded in bedrooms. She and her brother went from Soundcloud to a major label (Interscope) practically overnight.

Most of her "out of the norm ideas" are about, well, how she dresses. I guess that impresses some people.


She's extremely NOT pop - much more like tori amos or someone like that who is brilliant and very out there, but has happened to write a couple of songs that reached a larger audience.
Tori Amos is as much pop as she is anything else. If you insist that "female singer-songwriter" is its own genre, Tori had plenty of forerunners -- Joni Mitchell, Aimee Mann, Natalie Merchant, Kate Bush, Patti Smith, Suzanne Vega, Laura Nyro, Rickie Lee Jones to name a few.

What can I say, I am just not all that impressed by breathy vocals and sequencers.
 
Billie Eilish is among them. But I’ve noticed the past year or so especially, an influx of vocalists that have a vocal style like they’re singing quietly or mumbling a tune while in public. I hope that visual makes sense?

Not bad at all, just the “let’s sing very softly, almost to not draw attention to myself”.

I’ve used this same technique many times walking my dog while wearing headphones....just to much less fanfare
 
Billie Eilish is among them. But I’ve noticed the past year or so especially, an influx of vocalists that have a vocal style like they’re singing quietly or mumbling a tune while in public. I hope that visual makes sense?

Not bad at all, just the “let’s sing very softly, almost to not draw attention to myself”.

I’ve used this same technique many times walking my dog while wearing headphones....just to much less fanfare
I think it has to do with a more DIY thing, than anything else. It's easy to sing that way without having much in the way of technique, and many people find it appealing and relatable.
 
Got Dam, *** has happened to this world? We went from seriously bad ass rock stars to some entitled teen saying she’s a bad guy.

She’ll be forgotten in a couple years, then it’ll be some other dippoopie. Lizzo is alright, better than Eilish for a fact.

Of course, let’s not forget the Grammy’s doesn’t represent what is actually good music, just what the dumbass masses gorge down their ignorant throats.
 
Got Dam, *** has happened to this world? We went from seriously bad ass rock stars to some entitled teen saying she’s a bad guy.

She’ll be forgotten in a couple years, then it’ll be some other dippoopie. Lizzo is alright, better than Eilish for a fact.

Of course, let’s not forget the Grammy’s doesn’t represent what is actually good music, just what the dumbass masses gorge down their ignorant throats.

Thanks for that fresh perspective. You bring to light several original points that have not yet been a part of the conversation. /s
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On a more positive note, Camila Cabello singing to her dad was just marvelous, especially with the producers of the show teasing it with the ambiguous lead-in and then syncing up the performance with the home movies of the family.

Really well-done... A+

I'm surprised no one is really talking about that anywhere. I hadn't really heard her before but had heard of her. I was surprised at her perfect pitch, inflection, control, emotion, and tone during that performance. I had no idea she could really sing like that. The absolute best performance of the night.
 
Cabello's performance was indeed super. I, too, haven't heard much out of her... aside from last year's Grammy opener... but she was terrific.

Combine that with the lyrics of the song (which I was completely new to)... and the waterworks from Dad? Holy cow, very powerful.

Yeah, she won top prize of the evening.

I'm surprised no one is really talking about that anywhere. I hadn't really heard her before but had heard of her. I was surprised at her perfect pitch, inflection, control, emotion, and tone during that performance. I had no idea she could really sing like that. The absolute best performance of the night.
 
I flipped my vpn to France to watch it on C Show (youtube stream).

It was. I had the thought "even my worst showing as a singer or bassist, was never as bad as what went on on that stage". Made me feel good, then bad for them. If they had agreed yo play with their "unprepared" drummer, it couldn't have hurt the performance much.

was it as bad as folks say it was? i wanted to see it this morning but it is blocked in the u.s. (through normal channels).
 
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I find this thread interesting. Eilish was and perhaps still is featured in some sort of production app wherein there were many ads on YouTube. I was targeted by such an ad. I didn't know who she was until this thread. The ad was about a gen z creation of electronic music and what laptop tools might be cool. I found it compelling enough to watch the ad. I have not thought about again it until now.

I am on page two of this thread. I watched "Bad Guy" and some other vid about where one goes in dreams. So far so good. It is electronic music. I don't listen to much of it. Of the modern elecronic music I have checked out, this is good. She reminds me of David Bowie.
 
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