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Billie Eilish Grammy Sweep

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Keeps the profit margins higher. Imagine how much money the label saved by not having to pay for a real studio.
That is actually pretty common these days. Take a low budget recording; re-mix, re-master, and release. Low cost, low risk. If it takes off, put money into the next album. I hope they keep her brother around to produce for her.
 
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This is some of the most ignorant commenting I’ve seen on TB. Are none if you in touch with current music and we are gonna smack talk a girl who released this album when she was 17, wrote all the music and recorded it in her brothers bedroom with no high end producers, engineers or label-heads breathing down her neck?

Billie is a very gifted singer, songwriter and certainly the most talented in the genre currently. She wrote real songs about depression, suicide and anxiety. Not Benz’s and b*tches.

Billie is the real deal. Sorry the Beatles and Pink Floyd can’t still win years later because apparently no one has the ability to write a good record after 199x. You all sound like your dads.
Yes, but I think you meant 197x.
 
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I'd go back and give it another listen... but that Grammys show vacated my DVR faster than the world will forget about Billy Eyelids. :roflmao:

The Aerosmith thing was loud and obnoxious, and not in a good way.

The Prince thing mostly showed us what an unapproachable level of talent he had, through watching Usher, a good performer who can definitely sing, sound very "normal" singing those songs.

Not sure anyone but me heard this, but the keyboard player completely laid an egg on the solo in "Doves".
 
Yes. 100 times yes. That said, I'm of the mindset that Aerosmith sucked in the 80's, too. Most bands that were great in the 70's sucked in the 80'. I blame cocaine and MTV.

From around '84 to around '90, Aerosmith live was abysmal. Then, suddenly in the early 90s, they became a tight live band again with Tyler singing better than he had since the mid 70s. I remember being astounded when I saw them on MTV Unplugged back then because I remember how bad they sucked in the 80s, especially vocally. Now suddenly, Tyler was a vocal master screaming like a teenager. It even made their crappy sappy songs sound good live.

Now, I'm not talking about their music per se, but their ability as performers. They had lost it in the early 80s, got it back in the early 90s, and now they sound like pure ass. Not regular ass mind you, but Rosie O'Donnell super hairy 70s thicket man-ass.
 
This is some of the most ignorant commenting I’ve seen on TB. Are none if you in touch with current music and we are gonna smack talk a girl who released this album when she was 17, wrote all the music and recorded it in her brothers bedroom with no high end producers, engineers or label-heads breathing down her neck?

Billie is a very gifted singer, songwriter and certainly the most talented in the genre currently. She wrote real songs about depression, suicide and anxiety. Not Benz’s and b*tches.

Billie is the real deal. Sorry the Beatles and Pink Floyd can’t still win years later because apparently no one has the ability to write a good record after 199x. You all sound like your dads.
1000% agree with this sentiment buuuuuuutttt...
Dude, she's not gonna go out with you.
this is freaking hilarious :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
 
I must say, and again, caveat, I don't like most modern pop music, and I think rock, more or less, needs to be taken out behind the building and shot, but I don't understand how some people wear pop cluelessness like it's a badge of honor. I'm mostly into ambient/soundscape type stuff now, and even my bass playing's taken a turn towards that. But I'm a musician. I feel like I SHOULD know what's going on, because contrary to what some here believe, good things in music have happened since that remarkably fertile period of '65-'75. If I dismissed electronic music as new age pap or obnoxious EDM, I wouldn't be in what I consider my most fertile and satisfying period in my 34 years of playing. And even through that, I had to listen to a lot of conventional electro to figure out what clicked.

Yes, almost every time I take the time to check out some of these artists, I shrug, or yeah, think it's no better than crap from previous decades, but I don't see how being an out-of-touch fossil is something bragworthy, all why going on about how awesome someone like Eric Clapton or Aerosmith or someone else who's about as exciting as mayo on Wonder Bread is. Some of you don't sound much different than old people in the 60's going on about the Beatles and that long hair they had in '63.

I often think of how Miles Davis would have just been another generic trumpet player, had he taken that approach. And yeah, I can't stand later Miles, but damn, he got it.
 
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I listen widely. You implied I didn’t, or that’s how it came off. Definitely checking that out. Part of my problem: the lack of gatekeepers/tastemakers that hip me to new stuff.

also, I didn’t say that his new approach of ‘atmosphere/vibe/mood’ over harmonic innovation and skill is a BAD thing. Just a paradigm shift to ME.
Not trying to imply anything, was just responding to what was on the screen. Peace.
 
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Go back and look at some of the winners and nominees for Record of the Year over the last 10 years at the Grammys...

Kings of Leon... Gotye... Daft Punk... Iggy Azalea... Sam Smith... Sia... Charli XCX... The Weeknd... Lukas Graham... Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee... Post Malone... Zedd...

Wowzers, the world is turning out some forgettable poop.

In a few more years, we'll be thinking the same thing about last night's selection. Ooooph...
 
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I think Billie Eilish is awesome. Her compositions are interesting and unique. Granted, the bar for pop music in the last 10+ years is appallingly low. But her stuff sounds like real music, written and performed by humans, with an emphasis on composition over production.
It kinda... isn't.

The only performed bit is the vocals, and maybe the bass. Everything else is samples, sequences, drum machines, programming, and so on. There is little emphasis on melody and harmony, it's almost all timbre and rhythm. The live band is 3 people -- Eilish singing, her brother on keys or bass, a drummer, and pre-recorded tracks.

Granted, at least it wasn't written by Dr Luke and Max Martin, like almost every other pop album out there. If you enjoy it, that's your business. But your description just doesn't sound right.
 
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Go back and look at some of the winners and nominees for Record of the Year over the last 10 years at the Grammys...

Kings of Leon... Gotye... Daft Punk... Iggy Azalea... Sam Smith... Sia... Charli XCX... The Weeknd... Lukas Graham... Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee... Post Malone... Zedd...

Wowzers, the world is turning out some forgettable poop.

In a few more years, we'll be thinking the same thing about last night's selection. Ooooph...
Right, and Thundercat sings like George Duke did 45 years ago, and Flea did a lot of what Louis Johnson and Larry Graham was already doing long before him, but it doesn't make either of them any less awesome or enjoyable.
 
Billie Ilish is, compared to the rest of the pack I saw last night, a breath of fresh air. She can actually sing, she writes her own music.. including the chord change :) , and has actual soul. Is she Joni Mitchell? Not right now as she is 18, but she shows actual potential imo.
 
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