Billie Eilish Grammy Sweep

[Michedelic]

While i dont think that's a particularly inspiring bassline the playing by such a young player, on an entry level instrument, sure makes you realise you should be practicing instead of browsing the classifieds.

Wow, that’s damning without the faint praise; I’ve been playing for a long time, maybe even longer than you’ve been alive for all I know, and I can do some flash things. But, as it’s not my usual style, I have to work on playing something like Chic’s “Good Times” correctly. That Lizzo tune is a 70’s funk/disco throwback, and the young lady in the video is nailing the Bernard Edwards thing better than I could. It’s a hip bassline no matter who’s playing it. What does anything have to do with the quality of her instrument? Laura Lee travels the world with her SX. While Lee, on the other hand, doesn’t do anything I couldn’t, she’s the one on stage with Khruangbin, not me, and what she does play is perfect for that band. The right notes, the right groove, the right space, but certainly more than Dusty Hill(as the K’s are the other Houstonian lil’ old band from Texas trio).

 

[higain617]

was it as bad as folks say it was? i wanted to see it this morning but it is blocked in the u.s. (through normal channels).

It was like the 80’s version except past the expiry date.

 

[ElMon]

Pretty much, but hey, different strokes, right? I mean, if it was all about technique and such, prog rock and fusion would still be big. But it ain't.

I just don't hear anything interesting as far as composition/harmonic content.

Then again, most of the music I hear today is more concerned with atmosphere/vibe than any of those 'old' musical metrics.
Seriously though. Dork around on soundcloud. You never know.

Kind of disappointed that in this era of 'political strife' (close as I'll get, per the rules) a rip-roaring, in-your-face punk movement didn't materialize, like in Thatcher-era England.

 

[hardtop]

Adele's physical appearance and her backstory (being done wrong by a man, etc) are major reasons why she got so popular; "in spite of her physical appearance" doesn't apply because her physical appearance was a major reason why she resonated with fans and people with similar experiences.

Lizzo is the same way. No one would have a clue who she was if she didn't look or act like Lizzo.

I understand that is your take on it. I disagree. Adele's sucess is due, in large part, to the fact that she is an extremely talented and gifted vocalist. Lizzo is not the same, as she has little or none of that talent. Many singers with half Adele's skills become incredibly popular soley because they are thin and sterotypically beautiful ; It's very strange to me that you're suggesting Adele became popular because she was overweight? She became successful because she was good... a rare exception to the rule these days.

 

[stonetone7]

I’ve got about as many good things to say about the Grammys as I do about never-been musicians who bitterly rag on those who win them.

Fact is that this year’s Grammys were pretty remarkable. Forget the telecast and performances. This was the music industry’s biggest marketing tool lining up squarely behind a duo who made it huge from the jump as a music industry outlier.

 

[Michedelic]

I just don't hear anything interesting as far as composition/harmonic content.

Then again, most of the music I hear today is more concerned with atmosphere/vibe than any of those 'old' musical metrics.
Seriously though. Dork around on soundcloud. You never know.

Kind of disappointed that in this era of 'political strife' (close as I'll get, per the rules) a rip-roaring, in-your-face punk movement didn't materialize, like in Thatcher-era England.

The yutes of today have been soma-ized. It takes too much effort to rebel; anger is an energy, as someone once said.

 

[ScottsTheLimit]

I understand that is your take on it. I disagree. Adele's sucess is due, in large part, to the fact that she is an extremely talented and gifted vocalist. Lizzo is not the same, as she has little or none of that talent. Many singers with half Adele's skills become incredibly popular soley because they are thin and sterotypically beautiful ; It's very strange to me that you're suggesting Adele became popular because she was overweight? She became successful because she was good... a rare exception to the rule these days.

I don't care for either of them, but I'd rather smile to a Lizzo song than suffer through some mindnumbing oh-woe-is-me I-was-done-wrong-by-a-man Adele phlegm-warble as I can hear the lard in her throat bounce and jiggle as she murmurs every copy/paste protools chorus.

 

[ScottsTheLimit]

Remember the uproar when Esperanza Spalding won new artist of the year, beating out Justin Beiber
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Yeah, but she started out good as a bassist, then someone told her she could sing. She can't.

 

[nonohmic]

Wow, that’s damning without the faint praise; I’ve been playing for a long time, maybe even longer than you’ve been alive for all I know, and I can do some flash things. But, as it’s not my usual style, I have to work on playing something like Chic’s “Good Times” correctly. That Lizzo tune is a 70’s funk/disco throwback, and the young lady in the video is nailing the Bernard Edwards thing better than I could. It’s a hip bassline no matter who’s playing it. What does anything have to do with the quality of her instrument? Laura Lee travels the world with her SX. While Lee, on the other hand, doesn’t do anything I couldn’t, she’s the one on stage with Khruangbin, not me, and what she does play is perfect for that band. The right notes, the right groove, the right space, but certainly more than Dusty Hill(as the K’s are the other Houstonian lil’ old band from Texas trio).

I guess my punctuation leaves much to be desired.

My point was, the bassline is pretty standard fare imo. Like you say a 70's funk/disco throwback. Not particularly inspiring.

What is inspiring is the young musician absolutely ripping it on their entry level instrument.

 

[DJ Bebop]

I hear you all complaining about this.

It like a dude buying a box of Tampons then, complaining they don't fit.
It was never meant for you in the first place

 

[NoSlapForYou]

I think Billie Eilish is awesome. Her compositions are interesting and unique. Granted, the bar for pop music in the last 10+ years is appallingly low. But her stuff sounds like real music, written and performed by humans, with an emphasis on composition over production.

I also like Lizzo for her witty lyrics and worldview. All the rest of pop music right now can DIAF.

 

[BOOG]

Okay, so, I think now is a good time for some to put away the excuse of AGE being a factor of why Billie Eilish and some other above listed artists are not in your wheelhouses.

I’m 50, and not only have I heard of her but, I also like her material. Just because I like it doesn’t mean I listen to it all of the time but, it’s great for what it is.

Honestly, does it really make sense to expend so much bad energy about this and spit negativity into the world? Regardless of who wins what for whatever they do, it doesn’t matter nor does it give valid reason to cut down others or take away from others. We all know ‘what’ these award events are about. So what?! None of it really effects any of us.

I will say I think it was embarrassingly abundant to pass all of the awards to her and her brother and by their reactions I’d bet they feel the same. I just hope that it doesn’t result in negative side effects to their careers.

peace

 

[BOOG]

I hear you all complaining about this.

It like a dude buying a box of Tampons then, complaining they don't fit.
It was never meant for you in the first place

 

[Michedelic]

It's quite clear.

If Lizzo were thin, she wouldn't be receiving the accolades she does. She's like the new Adele.

Baby how you feelin'?

So, is that why, in the 80’s, Ann Wilson(who still had the vocal chops that she did in the 70’s)was constantly hidden away in their videos circa ‘85. While not my thing, I don’t find what Lizzo does any more lacking than Macy Gray, who has what you could call a quirky style.

 

[lermgalieu]

Then again, most of the music I hear today is more concerned with atmosphere/vibe than any of those 'old' musical metrics.

Time to listen to something else then. There is an abundance of awesome new music out there for those who seek it out.

 

[DJ Bebop]

Yeah, but she started out good as a bassist, then someone told her she could sing. She can't.

Dude, she one of us. Now you're just eating our own.
I find her singing, fine.

 

[roller]

Yeah, I can see where someone would ask this question as it's been a while.

The music in this clip was certainly live.



Those guys killed it that night, although Jethro Tull went home with the Hard Rock/Heavy Metal Grammy. What a complete joke... one of many over the years that's made the Academy look like a bunch of fools.

Here's the latest...

Wait, when were the performances on the Grammys completely live?

 

[SirMjac28]

Yep. She's a kid and kids like kids who make music. Unfortunately, it takes the legitimacy away from the awards. Used to be great songwriting and timeless songs were the rage. I watched but couldn't stomach much of the performers. Even the Aerosmith/Run DMC thing was hard to watch. I liked the Prince tribute but it was overdone IMHO. Cameras panning every which a way and not focusing on any one thing. Way too much focus on theatrics.

I agree and Usher was the last person I would have picked to sing Prince I would have rather seen H.E.R sing and play the guitar

 

[Michedelic]

I guess my punctuation leaves much to be desired.

My point was, the bassline is pretty standard fare imo. Like you say a 70's funk/disco throwback. Not particularly inspiring.

What is inspiring is the young musician absolutely ripping it on their entry level instrument.

Nothing wrong with 70’s funk(and a judicious amount of disco); even though I’m a rocker at heart, that was a golden era of bass playing. I’m still trying to figure out what some of those guys were doing back then.

 

[Michedelic]

I hear you all complaining about this.

It like a dude buying a box of Tampons then, complaining they don't fit.
It was never meant for you in the first place

Unless you’re suffering from a bloody nose or hemorrhoids.