This info and the plots that he supposedly can do would be greatly appreciated. Not providing this info again should speak volumes.
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This info and the plots that he supposedly can do would be greatly appreciated. Not providing this info again should speak volumes.
So in that case the cab is sealed for the front driver and 4th order bandpass for the woofer firing downwards, the lower part with the three slots acts as an acoustic lowpass filter. I guess you gave each driver a separate enclosure, right?
Understandable.
Btw. if the answer was "no" I would advise to give each driver it's own enclosure.
And it seems your users are too. Where I'm from you request and pay for consultation, they don't just show up unwanted
We don't mind opinions or suggestions. I look forward to feedback once those people get a chance to actually experience our products in real life.
When we did the spectrum analysis on our cabs the engineer gave us suggestions on how to address what he considered to be a couple of issues. We thanked him and let him know it was unnecessary because the cabs sounded exactly like we wanted them to sound for the tasks they were designed for.
When we did the spectrum analysis on our cabs the engineer gave us suggestions on how to address what he considered to be a couple of issues. We thanked him and let him know it was unnecessary because the cabs sounded exactly like we wanted them to sound for the tasks they were designed for.
Tank 1212 owner, sounds really great and is very light weight. I couldn't be happier.
I've witnessed nonstop debates about so much gear it's not even funny. People talking past each other in an attempt to prove that their conclusions are the correct ones. I've even bought things based on "expert" opinions with mixed results.
What works for me is real world experiences. When I wanted to find out what was up with something I may have only heard about I sought it out, got it in my hands and made my decision on whether or not it was a good fit FOR ME.
So when I see something like which of these three cabs are best for XYZ it actually saddens me. In a world full of so many options, why narrow them down arbitrarily?
Quite often someone will ask me which Tank model they should consider. I don't steer them in any particular direction, instead ask them about what their goals are and answer any questions I can. Funny thing is that I spend at least half of the conversations talking about everything else but the cabs, answering questions.
If you want to use the opinions of others as a shortcut, in my experience you also run the real risk of short-changing yourself. So my advice is to put the time into learning how each piece of gear that you use works and if you're not receiving the results you want... make sure the problem isn't your lack of knowledge. And knowledge does not just mean specs.
What works for me is real world experiences. When I wanted to find out what was up with something I may have only heard about I sought it out, got it in my hands and made my decision on whether or not it was a good fit FOR ME.
So when I see something like which of these three cabs are best for XYZ it actually saddens me. In a world full of so many options, why narrow them down arbitrarily?
Quite often someone will ask me which Tank model they should consider. I don't steer them in any particular direction, instead ask them about what their goals are and answer any questions I can. Funny thing is that I spend at least half of the conversations talking about everything else but the cabs, answering questions.
If you want to use the opinions of others as a shortcut, in my experience you also run the real risk of short-changing yourself. So my advice is to put the time into learning how each piece of gear that you use works and if you're not receiving the results you want... make sure the problem isn't your lack of knowledge. And knowledge does not just mean specs.
@Brad Johnson This thread seems pretty messy, but your cabs look cool and im thinking about grabbing one.
Is there a big difference between the 1212 and 1012 other than speaker size? I play pop/rock/top 40 in small to medium venues and almost always with FOH support for large/outdoor venues, i'd be running the cab with a 500+ watt SS head, as i can remember these cabs are 4 ohm so there shouldnt be a headroom problem.
for reference, i use active warwick basses and my favorite cabinets of late are the NEO 212 cabinets, but i could use more bass out of them without getting a flat/boomy cab in return.
Is there a big difference between the 1212 and 1012 other than speaker size? I play pop/rock/top 40 in small to medium venues and almost always with FOH support for large/outdoor venues, i'd be running the cab with a 500+ watt SS head, as i can remember these cabs are 4 ohm so there shouldnt be a headroom problem.
for reference, i use active warwick basses and my favorite cabinets of late are the NEO 212 cabinets, but i could use more bass out of them without getting a flat/boomy cab in return.
It seems like the argument of whether an amp or cab is a musical instrument or a multiplier. Why can't both sides accept it? I am envious of so many bass players' tones who play Ampeg 8x10s. I am not going to move one of those. I went the other way with Acmes and I get compliments on my thick sound. But sometimes I wonder. I should try these.
I'm playing right now, I'll get to this ASAP. Quick answer, either should excel in your scenario, which is similar to mine. I use a Tank 1012 for all of my gigs.
Edit: The Tank 1212 is a larger cabinet (while still extremely small for a 212) and that gives it more bottom at the same settings as the Tank 1012 BUT... a slight bump to your amp's volume control will yield similar results. I personally prefer the smaller cab because it gives me the lows I want with room to spare and IMO is the tightest, punchiest cab in the lineup. And quite honestly I like the freakish nature of getting that performance out of an 18" cube. I can't crank my cab on most gigs... it's overkill. I like gear that can coast through my gigs.
Good catch on the 4 ohm rating. We did that to take full advantage of heads like yours.
Where are you located? We may have a user or dealer near you where you can see for yourself.
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Actually the argument has been about people not believing these can work without actually hearing them vs. people who've actually heard or used them's experience.
Edit: We have several owner who've replaced the 810 cabs and most recently a 115/410 stack with a single Tank. We regularly recommend that people don't buy two cabs unless:
1. you're playing in stereo or
2. you need them in two locations simultaneously
Many gigging bassist like Drue and myself are at a point where we need our sound but want to travel as light as possible without fully depending on the soundperson. For our customers... problem solved. One and done.
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I was skeptical, but tried one and my wife was there. She said I needed to get it because it sounds really good. Even owning a 1215 I still don't believe the sound I'm getting from this compact cab. But I am. I can even run a 50W Ampeg Pf-50t and do reasonably sized gigs.
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I believe in calling a Spade a Spade. Brad and I have had our personal differences but I've played through a BBC and yup they are Legit.
Hi Brad, after almost one year of constant usage I'm still really loving my BBC Tank 1212. It sounds incredible and it's a rugged (built like a tank). I make one trip from my car and I'm setup, done.
Thanks, we really appreciate you giving us a shot.
We thought about it and decided to stop with the 1215. If you get a chance to check one out I think you'll see why.
