Boss GT 1000Core

[jimfist]

Is anyone actually using the 4 cable method? I’m very interested in your results, and how you are utilizing it.
Thanks!

Depends on the situation and the player responsible for creating the tones via the various preamps va 4CM. Also, whether the assumption being you'd change those preamp tones within the course of a single performance or not. If done skillfully, sure, it could work. I'd see this, however, as opening the door to all kinds of problems, switching tones within a single performance.

But if you're in a band that has 100% control of all sound/PA support aspects of your gig, then it could definitely be worked out, especially if the feeling is the various preamp tone changes greatly enhances the overall sound. Might be a little unorthodox, but do-able.

Personally, for most applications, I think its a long way to go for not a lot of benefit. But there will always be a case where this could be considered essential, such as a dance band that does, for example, a set of R&B, followed by a set of 80s. Two genres that are very different WRT bass tone.

 

[Johno Dunn]

Depends on the situation and the player responsible for creating the tones via the various preamps va 4CM. Also, whether the assumption being you'd change those preamp tones within the course of a single performance or not. If done skillfully, sure, it could work. I'd see this, however, as opening the door to all kinds of problems, switching tones within a single performance.

But if you're in a band that has 100% control of all sound/PA support aspects of your gig, then it could definitely be worked out, especially if the feeling is the various preamp tone changes greatly enhances the overall sound. Might be a little unorthodox, but do-able.

Personally, for most applications, I think its a long way to go for not a lot of benefit. But there will always be a case where this could be considered essential, such as a dance band that does, for example, a set of R&B, followed by a set of 80s. Two genres that are very different WRT bass tone.

The more I think about it the less appealing is sounds, and your post seals it. I like my SWR tone, but I love the tones I’m getting out of the Boss and running into the return of the 350. Really all the versatility that I need.

 

[jimfist]

The more I think about it the less appealing is sounds, and your post seals it. I like my SWR tone, but I love the tones I’m getting out of the Boss and running into the return of the 350. Really all the versatility that I need.

I'd be all over the Core (or the GX-100) if they only had some synth stuff (are there any envelope filters?...don't recall off the top of my head). I'm in an all-in-one frame of mind these days, and clearly Boss wants you to purchase one of their synth boxes for that task, rather than include it in their other multi-fx. Still, these Boss pedals are attractive.

 

[MrDinsdale]

Well I spent my lunch break playing with my GK Fusion S using 4cm and a parallel chain trying to match the sound with the native amps/effects. Managed to get pretty close using the Natural Bass amp, a compressor and eq, it's similar in feel at least although there are a few nuances. I think the Boss version would actually cut through the mix much better at a gig, much tighter sounding.

Gonna try and do the same with the overdrive channel on the amp later because it's a pretty nice drive tone, I might get out my old GK RB700 and try with that too.

I take back what I said, I think the Boss can probably sound just as good as my bass heads, certainly good enough for me not to miss them. I do wish there were a few more options in there, either in the existing amps to tweak the sounds even more or additional amps to pick from but it's pleanty to keep me occupied. Think I'll be ditching the 4CM after today, saves my buying more cables too

 

[Johno Dunn]

I'd be all over the Core (or the GX-100) if they only had some synth stuff (are there any envelope filters?...don't recall off the top of my head). I'm in an all-in-one frame of mind these days, and clearly Boss wants you to purchase one of their synth boxes for that task, rather than include it in their other multi-fx. Still, these Boss pedals are attractive.

The Filters are not bad at all, and the octavers are definitely usable. Together with a Fuzz, and very usable synth tones. Good enough for my Funk band for sure! Where the Boss really shines is in the depth and feel of the pre's and cab sims. My IE's have never felt and sounded so good. And being a comp junkie, I am very pleased with the compressor choices in the Core. I was ready to pull the trigger on the B6, when I got this in a trade. I never even gave it so much as a glance, well, because...Boss. Sure glad I gave it a go, because this, a DI and an Aux switch are my board.

 

[Grahams Groove]

Just joined the GT1K Core crew, and am planning to try it out as part of an integrated board. I'm going to explore the dirt tones more in time, but the immediate goal is to use it for modulation and delay, in place of the delay (collider), flanger (bf-2), and pitch (EHX PF) pedals on the board now. If I can rearrange things appropriately, the CORE should allow me to replace all of those three, add more verb, looping, phaser, etc. And it will allow me to maintain and rearrange my routing of things more preciselty.

Question for the hive mind to hopefully get myself up and running asap...

The heart of my board/sound is a Rusty Box, which I run in the loop of a Damnation Loop Blender. This basically lets me blend back some low-passed lows to add thickness to the relatively tight low end of the Rusty Box. On my current board I have a pitchfork, distortion, fuzz, and wah before the Rusty/Damnation combo, with my flanger and delay running after.

The goal is to throw my distortion, fuzz, and wah into the CORE's first FX loop, and the Rusty Box/Blender into the second loop. This should give me the freedom to place the CORE's pitch shifting, modulation, and delay/verb effects wherever I want in the chain...i.e. pitch shifting effects > loop 1 dirt > loop 2 RB > delay effect, etc.

My main questions are:

1) How to find the best starting point for configuring patches so the loops with my pedals are not being altered aside from position in the chain? Are there any specific settings for the Core's send/return blocks that I should be mindful of to make sure I'm not altering the sound of the dirt pedals?

2) I've adjusted/created an input level to suit my main jazz bass. However, I'm unsure of my best way to set the output of the CORE since I'll be simply using it for the FX Loop and effects listed above, into the front of my amp. I don't need any cab emulation. So I'm curious of the optimal output settings to make sure I'm just giving my amp the bass > effects/loops of the CORE > amp?

Sorry for being needy here. I'll definitely spend the next few weeks deep diving and picking through the manual as I work on some patches. In the meantime though, I'm trying to get the effects/loops up and running ASAP.

Thanks!

 

[FunkHead]

Just joined the GT1K Core crew, and am planning to try it out as part of an integrated board. I'm going to explore the dirt tones more in time, but the immediate goal is to use it for modulation and delay, in place of the delay (collider), flanger (bf-2), and pitch (EHX PF) pedals on the board now. If I can rearrange things appropriately, the CORE should allow me to replace all of those three, add more verb, looping, phaser, etc. And it will allow me to maintain and rearrange my routing of things more preciselty.

Question for the hive mind to hopefully get myself up and running asap...

The heart of my board/sound is a Rusty Box, which I run in the loop of a Damnation Loop Blender. This basically lets me blend back some low-passed lows to add thickness to the relatively tight low end of the Rusty Box. On my current board I have a pitchfork, distortion, fuzz, and wah before the Rusty/Damnation combo, with my flanger and delay running after.

The goal is to throw my distortion, fuzz, and wah into the CORE's first FX loop, and the Rusty Box/Blender into the second loop. This should give me the freedom to place the CORE's pitch shifting, modulation, and delay/verb effects wherever I want in the chain...i.e. pitch shifting effects > loop 1 dirt > loop 2 RB > delay effect, etc.

My main questions are:

1) How to find the best starting point for configuring patches so the loops with my pedals are not being altered aside from position in the chain? Are there any specific settings for the Core's send/return blocks that I should be mindful of to make sure I'm not altering the sound of the dirt pedals?

2) I've adjusted/created an input level to suit my main jazz bass. However, I'm unsure of my best way to set the output of the CORE since I'll be simply using it for the FX Loop and effects listed above, into the front of my amp. I don't need any cab emulation. So I'm curious of the optimal output settings to make sure I'm just giving my amp the bass > effects/loops of the CORE > amp?

Sorry for being needy here. I'll definitely spend the next few weeks deep diving and picking through the manual as I work on some patches. In the meantime though, I'm trying to get the effects/loops up and running ASAP.

Thanks!

If you're going into the front of your amp, There are a few AIRD pre's that still work okay but for the most part you should turn them off for each patch.
Some of the Preamps are pretty sweet.

I really like going into my Effects return and using some of the "Amp/Cab Simms" such as Blues Cube Artist212 RETURN, WAZA Amp 412 RETURN, Hot Rod Deluxe RETURN etc… It depends on which bass I'm playing and Rounds Vs. Flats play a big part in the tone.

I have spent 100's of hours experimenting and everything sounds great.

Someone will come along with some better advice but I hope that helps a little.

 

[Grahams Groove]

If you're going into the front of your amp, There are a few AIRD pre's that still work okay but for the most part you should turn them off for each patch.
Some of the Preamps are pretty sweet.

I really like going into my Effects return and using some of the "Amp/Cab Simms" such as Blues Cube Artist212 RETURN, WAZA Amp 412 RETURN, Hot Rod Deluxe RETURN etc… It depends on which bass I'm playing and Rounds Vs. Flats play a big part in the tone.

I have spent 100's of hours experimenting and everything sounds great.

Someone will come along with some better advice but I hope that helps a little.

Thanks! So if I'm configuring the Main Output Select under Output Settings, I noticed there's Recording, Line/Phones, and then a bunch of amp selections including a generic one for a bass cab with a tweeter. Any thoughts on which is best into the front of the amp?

 

[FunkHead]

The Bass Cab W/Tweeter is pretty good but I was using the Blues Cube Artist 212 Input into the front of my Mesa TT-800 and it sounded great with my Active Mayones W/Flats.


Then I plugged in My Sadowsky RV4 with Rounds and settled on going to the Subway Channel Effects return and set Core to Blues Cube Artist212 RETURN. My AIRD Pre is set to X-DRV BS. It Sounds Killer.

 

[Johno Dunn]

Thanks! So if I'm configuring the Main Output Select under Output Settings, I noticed there's Recording, Line/Phones, and then a bunch of amp selections including a generic one for a bass cab with a tweeter. Any thoughts on which is best into the front of the amp?

What amp are you running into?

 

[Nuage420]

Thanks! So if I'm configuring the Main Output Select under Output Settings, I noticed there's Recording, Line/Phones, and then a bunch of amp selections including a generic one for a bass cab with a tweeter. Any thoughts on which is best into the front of the amp?

Congrats on the GT1K! Are you in desktop tone studio? If not, it's in your best interest to be.

 

[Grahams Groove]

What amp are you running into?

Bergantino Forte HP (BFT Circuit) into a Mesa Subway 1x15 + 1x12.

Congrats on the GT1K! Are you in desktop tone studio? If not, it's in your best interest to be.

I am - I've been playing around with editing from there and directly on the unit, just to have a feel for both.

 

[MrDinsdale]

Is anyone aware of any places to download/share gt-1000 patches for bass?

First time with a multi-fx so trying to decide how to organise my patches. I was thinking of creating some templates with each of the amp types and some useful signal chains as starting points on slots 20+. That way I can clone to slots 1-19 and tweak as required.

Tbh I can't imagine needing more than 2-3 patches at any given time but handy to have room to scale

 

[Nuage420]

Is anyone aware of any places to download/share gt-1000 patches for bass?

First time with a multi-fx so trying to decide how to organise my patches. I was thinking of creating some templates with each of the amp types and some useful signal chains as starting points on slots 20+. That way I can clone to slots 1-19 and tweak as required.

Tbh I can't imagine needing more than 2-3 patches at any given time but handy to have room to scale

I think someone started a thread here in TB land but it didn't really take off.

 

[MrDinsdale]

Fair enough, tbf its more just to see what cool stuff people are doing with patches. I'm pretty new to effects in general, the biggest my pedal board got was a tuner, compressor and fuzz so I have a lot to learn!

Surprised there aren't more deep dives into the available effects on YouTube etc. Still, it's good to just have a mess about and find out what works.

 

[Nuage420]

Fair enough, tbf its more just to see what cool stuff people are doing with patches. I'm pretty new to effects in general, the biggest my pedal board got was a tuner, compressor and fuzz so I have a lot to learn!

Surprised there aren't more deep dives into the available effects on YouTube etc. Still, it's good to just have a mess about and find out what works.

Look up Jared gunston and planet zed. They've done the most crazy poopie

 

[Krisfield]

I create the template (effect block layout), then initialise the patch so that the settings are in their default positions. Then I start adding and subtracting. Just small moves at first, then bigger adjustments after I have the basic bass tone. I’ve created hundreds of patches

 

[Krisfield]

This is my template, with all effects blocks are initialised.

- FX 1 is for Pitch Shifting and Wah effects
- CMP is post AIRD Preamp and Drive effects
- FX 2 is the Bass Chorus
- FX 3 is the Limiter
- DIV 1 is single or dual channel
- Speaker Sim is always 8x10 or 2x15
- Main Out is Low Cut 40hz and High Cut 3.15khz

 

[MrDinsdale]

Ace, tbh I never use compression further up the chain really but will have to have a play.

 

[Krisfield]

I like the compressor after drive/preamp to smooth out a drive tone. Got to be cautious with the gain as it’ll introduce more distortion. Having it before the drive/preamp sound more granular to many ears. Buts it’s all personal preference. Its easy to audition effects blocks in different places in the Tone Studio.