I personally would put the GK in one of the FX loops, which would allow you to easily move it around in your chain. If it has a cab sim you could utilize that, or put your output on Recording and try the cab sims in the CORE.
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Boss GT 1000Core
- Thread starter Krisfield
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That's how I'm currently using it but I need to get longer cables, currently I have it sat on my head because I only have enough patch cables for 4cm
Can't afford anything too fancy but maybe I'll grab some cable and make a multicore to connect it all up. I need to get on the floor to get used to using the pedals.
4 Cable Method, where the preamp stage of your amplifier is placed before the GT-1000.
Basically this: Bass -> Amp's Preamp stage -> GT-1000 -> Amp's Power stage -> Speakers.
I personally don't think it's worth the added complexity and would rathe make the Amp just another FX block, with the Bass going into the GT-1000 first
4CM (four cable method) is more than that, it allows the external preamp, and the GT internal preamps to be used either independently or together (in parallel).
imagine the GT-1000 signal chain how you can re-arrange the effect blocks in any order, and the S/R loop block is your external preamp, so you can move your preamp anywhere before or after any effects.
(if using the Tone Studio editor, try to visualize the S/R loop block is actually your external amp's preamp tone section)
the 4CM connection is
bass > GT-1000 input > GT-1000 S/R Send > amp input > amp effects loop Send > GT-1000 S/R Return > GT-1000 L/Mono output > Amp effect Return > power amp > speaker.
So you can switch in/out your amp's external preamp and use one of the GT-1000 preamp's in its place, per patch.
You can place effects before and after your preamp.
imagine the GT-1000 signal chain how you can re-arrange the effect blocks in any order, and the S/R loop block is your external preamp, so you can move your preamp anywhere before or after any effects.
(if using the Tone Studio editor, try to visualize the S/R loop block is actually your external amp's preamp tone section)
the 4CM connection is
bass > GT-1000 input > GT-1000 S/R Send > amp input > amp effects loop Send > GT-1000 S/R Return > GT-1000 L/Mono output > Amp effect Return > power amp > speaker.
So you can switch in/out your amp's external preamp and use one of the GT-1000 preamp's in its place, per patch.
You can place effects before and after your preamp.
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Stereo Link turned off in the Speaker Simulator block for L/R Main Out
So, I've fut'zd with this thing for an hour or so now and I can see how it would replace nearly all my pedals. This thing is bonkers, but it's like I'm learning a new language to get the settings in, assigning the foot switches, and seeing what it can do if I really dig into bonkers settings. It looks like the software basically shows me all the basic functions it can do, but I get to decide how I want to arrange them. I absolutely see myself using the 4cm, but likely the 8cm to include my preamp for both bass and guitar (SLO and Kingsley, respectively). I have a lot of work to do to figure it out, but sheesh... this thing is a beast.
On my unit I placed the L/R outputs before Mix-1, that looks different but is functional the same I suppose. Except this way you could set the Mix-1 to determine if the signal goes stereo or panL/R to the Sub-output (if the Sends are set as Sub-out that is).
@Correlli, maybe you can post a picture with this configuration
Good point, Mix 1 = Pan L/R
On my unit I placed the L/R outputs before Mix-1, that looks different but is functional the same I suppose. Except this way you could set the Mix-1 to determine if the signal goes stereo or panL/R to the Sub-output (if the Sends are set as Sub-out that is).
@Correlli, maybe you can post a picture with this configuration
It's an incredible bit of kit. My old pedal board was a tuner, compressor and a big muff that I never got to use in the folky acoustic bands I've been playing with absolutely loving having all these effects to play with although I need to start getting more creative.
I think for me the 4cm is a bit of a must if I'm using my amps preamp stage, I found the GK Fusion s can be quite boomy and heavy on the lows, especially paired with my Barefaced two10. With 4cm I can pop an eq in there after the preamp to tame some of those low frequencies. You can even use it to switch channels on your amp which is awesome as the GK Fusion has a really nice tube distortion channel which I can now incorporate into the signal chain.
The only criticism I have is that there's so much you can do on the unit that it's easy to neglect the actual playing, I need all the practice I can get!
Does anyone know if you can change the shown name when in stompbox mods? For example, instead of showing drives as "ds1" and "DS2", can you have it say "overdrive" and "fuzz"?
Perhaps a dumb question, but I bet I'll ask more of those:
Does anyone know why the effects on the core differ from the effect to the FX block?
For example, I noticed that the CHO (chorus) block has four options (mono, Stereo 1, stereo 2, Dual), but the FX block's chorus options have several more (adding Prime, CE-1 chorus, CE-1 vibrato). Anyone know why this made this choice, or how this can be best utilized? Thanks!
Does anyone know why the effects on the core differ from the effect to the FX block?
For example, I noticed that the CHO (chorus) block has four options (mono, Stereo 1, stereo 2, Dual), but the FX block's chorus options have several more (adding Prime, CE-1 chorus, CE-1 vibrato). Anyone know why this made this choice, or how this can be best utilized? Thanks!
My best guess is DSP pre-allocation. The FX blocks probably have a higher DSP budget, and can support the higher quality chorus algorithms derived from the MD-500.
So with that in mind, are you essentially suggesting the fx block chorus will sound better than the cho block?
