Guiys, question about the tuner on the 10b. How good is it? cent rating would be good too. Since the only thing I was able to dig up about it is that it supports up to 6-string basses but thats about it. Thanks
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Boss GT-10B
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I think the tuner is ok for tuning up in between songs, but when you need to do some fine tuning like intonating your bass, it's not as accurate as a tuner with a needle like the Boss TU-12h or TU-80.
I received my GT-10B in the mail Monday (used, $319 shipped). I've only had a chance to run through some of the more interesting delivered patches. So far, I'm very excited about it. Here's what I like:
- The GT-10B has enough modeling capability to provide me with several completely different tonal approaches. My original project requires me to present a zingy funk tone, an old school R&B tone, and a reggae/dub tone variously. With this unit, I'll be able to easily switch among those tones on gigs, without much or any tweaking. I considered a V-Bass also, which goes a step further in the modeling area - but with that unit you have to deal with the GK pickup. I am a little moody about which of my basses I play, and I do go through phases - I didn't want to limit myself to whatever bass had the pickup on it or alternatively have to buy 4 or 5 pickups.
- I happen to like the synth tones this unit creates. I admit that there was no good Minimoog-style tone in the delivered patches. I'll see if i can approximate one - meanwhile, what seems to be more useful in my application is a thunky, left-hand organ type synth tone, which the GT-10B appears to nail.
- I really like the patch organization approach, especially the way you can create a baseline patch and use the two CTL activators to add a variation onto that baseline. I've already made a quick conceptual plan of how I will organize my user banks according to my own needs:
[*]Clean tones...each having four options, and each of those four having two variations using the CTL pedals. Brilliant!
[*]Solo tones
[*]Synth tones
[*]Dirty tones
[*]Sound FX tones
[*]EUB tones - The key advantage of this unit over a pedalboard, IMO, is the ability to rearrange the order of effects. With a pedalboard, if I decide that I would rather have my octaver after, instead of before, my auto-wah, I spend 30 minutes rewiring my pedalboard. And then I am stuck with that choice in all situations. With the GT-10B, I can set up one patch with any effects order I want, another with a different order, and switch across them instantly.
If anyone wants to share their patches, or if you are looking for some, then there is a patch exchange here
http://bossgtcentral.com/dm/
just type "guest" for the user name and password.
and a patch editor for the GT-10B from here
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http://bossgtcentral.com/dm/
just type "guest" for the user name and password.
and a patch editor for the GT-10B from here
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The bypass option (there are several ways to do this) is very good, I can't hear the Boss affecting my dry signal in bypass.
I play Sadowsky Metro Basses (active) and have never heard any clipping.
There is a system setting where you can adjust the input gain for your bass. It saves a few (4?) so you can assign different settings to different basses, if you swap frequently.
+1 on the bypass being very good. I have noticed a bit of a hump around 500hz in bypass, *compared to the unit on with no effects engaged. It's very, very minor, and I never did decide if it was a hump in bypass, or a dip when the unit was engaged...(probably the latter)
I've had mine for a few months now, and I'm still completely impressed with it. I had used the 6B on tour for several months (before I had to give it back to the guitar player
) and liked it quite a bit - the channel routing options and preamp models on the 10 kick butt though.
+1 on the bypass being very good. I have noticed a bit of a hump around 500hz in bypass, *compared to the unit on with no effects engaged. It's very, very minor, and I never did decide if it was a hump in bypass, or a dip when the unit was engaged...(probably the latter)
I've had mine for a few months now, and I'm still completely impressed with it. I had used the 6B on tour for several months (before I had to give it back to the guitar player
) and liked it quite a bit - the channel routing options and preamp models on the 10 kick butt though.I've read through this topic but would like to clear up some things.
1: Can I use the USB out for digital recording(Directly into USB of my PC)
2. All the sound samples provide examples of effects. Could I get a Simple bass sound for digital recording or for sending a signal into the PA through the DI.
When sending a signal into the PA is it possible to send the same signal into a bass amp for onstage monitoring without the amp modelling?
1: Can I use the USB out for digital recording(Directly into USB of my PC)
2. All the sound samples provide examples of effects. Could I get a Simple bass sound for digital recording or for sending a signal into the PA through the DI.
When sending a signal into the PA is it possible to send the same signal into a bass amp for onstage monitoring without the amp modelling?
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Yes, you can use it for recording, and also USB playback of computer sounds/music out via the GT-10B outputs. The GT-10B has a DGT/USB effect block which is movable in the effects chain, so you can record dry if it is at the front of the chain.2
Yes, either by switching off the active effects, or setting the GT-10B XLR outputs so that one has Effect and the other is Dry.3
Sort of, either by using the XLR outputs as above, or using the S/R Loop effect block to tap into the signal before the Preamp and sending that to your bass amp.The other option is to use the amp modelling and plug into the effect return of your Bass amp, and bypassing the on-board preamp of your bass amp.
The one little thing I wish it did, is the ability to split the cab simulator from the preamp module. I'm running the preamp models straight into the power amp in on my bass rig - I'd like to be able to send that signal *with* cabinet models to the house (from the xlr out), and leave the cab out of my stage sound.
I'll add that there are lots of "normal" bass sounds in the presets on the unit itself - if you're able to try one out at a music store, it'll be easy to cycle through some sounds and see what real usable tones you've got, rather than just a bunch of space station noises.
I'll add that there are lots of "normal" bass sounds in the presets on the unit itself - if you're able to try one out at a music store, it'll be easy to cycle through some sounds and see what real usable tones you've got, rather than just a bunch of space station noises.
I guess I formulated my question a bit wrong. What I really wanted to know was how many of you gus have used or would use the GT-10b onstage for sending a clean sound(Using only the amp sim) into the PA through the DI out of the unit. Also maybe you can link me to some recordings(MySpace or whatnot) that are done using the GT-10b that feature some clean sounding bass.
I dig a motown styled sound myself and play a P/J wiht flatwound strings. I actually quite like the sound I cna get out of the classic channel of my Marshall MB 4210, but I can't get a imilar signal into the DI out.
(I used to know how to speak english. Honestly....)
How i use my GT-10B, is into the front input of my Marshall MB450H (with the 4x10 and 1x15 cabs), and use the Marshall head D.I. socket on the back to the P.A.(pre EQ).
This seems to work well for me, so the stage sound and PA sound are the same.
This seems to work well for me, so the stage sound and PA sound are the same.
Okay, lets put it this way...
I've always been really wary of "modelling" devices. I thought the original Pod was useless. I cut a rock record once with a guitar player who insisted on using a Bear-Inger VeeAmp instead of a Marshall, and IMO said record sounded horrible as a result.
When the Line6 FM4 came out, I bought one - thought it sounded good, maybe changed my mind about modeled effects but I was still unconvinced about modeled amps/cabs etc.
So when I bought the GT-10B, it was strictly to use for effects, and to call up different EQ settings, etc. Actually, I was just going to incorporate it into my board...but it's so freaking big! In the midst of A/B'ing all the overdrive models with the ones I owned, I started farting around with the amp models.
Long story short - I've sold my Muffs, and nearly everything else, because they nailed them...and after hearing the amp models I've gone from using the Boss unit in front of my head, to putting my Ashdown pre in the GT-10B effect loop...to using the amp models on the GT-10B, and at this point I'm shopping around for a power amp so I can just sell my head.
I wasn't using the best sounding bass rig to begin with (Ashdown MAG600R, with two 4x10T 'deep' cabs). It was the best I could afford at the time. I haven't had a chance to try out the newer Line6 stuff (Pod XT Live, and what have you) to compare. I haven't actually stood in front of any of the real life versions of the GT-10B amp models, save numerous SVT Classic rigs on festival backlines. (So I can vouch for that one at least)
But, considering my main concern with digital processing is with the "graininess" - these models are the first I've heard that make me happy to use them.
So yes, I do use some dry, amp only patches that I send to the house on a regular basis now. I probably could have just said that at the beginning of the post instead of writing a novel, but there you go.
I recently picked up one of these, I've only had a few days to play with it and it's what I expected. I think it's very fun to play around with all the different effects in it and it has quite a few tones that I enjoy. I'm only about 1/4 of the way through the manual, and I've been experimenting as I go, pretty interesting results.
What about the Tuner/Bypass button... just above pedal 4...
I just got one of these in yesterday.. had a chance to fiddle with it... I am looking forward to diving into this thing over the next few weeks..
Yes- Tuner + byPass, i over looked the obvious.
I have my GT-10B tuner set to 'mute' so i can mute my sound easily between sets.
You can set it (EDIT - "It" being the Tuner) to Bypass, and use the Pedal Volume to "mute" your signal.
Really, every time I think I have this unit stumped, I find 2 or 3 ways around the problem
Love it.
Really, every time I think I have this unit stumped, I find 2 or 3 ways around the problem
Love it.
Got one of these for Christmas, and haven't spent a lot of time with it yet, but so far I've had several two-plus hours just cycling through the patches, and it's amazing! Ive been reading through the manual, and trying to find an easy way to line up specific patches to use through the sets during a gig.
On page 32 the directions mention Separating Patches Into Groups - Category. And is there a way to assign the patches I want to use to the Bank buttons so I can just click through them in order? Or can I assign them to the foot pedals themselves?
On page 32 the directions mention Separating Patches Into Groups - Category. And is there a way to assign the patches I want to use to the Bank buttons so I can just click through them in order? Or can I assign them to the foot pedals themselves?
just pick a location in the user patches (i start mine at 25-1) and move/save the patches upwards from there.
It doesn't matter if you write over the existing patches, as they are duplicated in the preset patches.
Just select a patch you like, press the "Write" button, then select the user patch location to write to, then press the write button again.
From my 'start' location, i have normal/useful patches going upwards, and freaky /unusual patches going downwards in patch numbers.
It doesn't matter if you write over the existing patches, as they are duplicated in the preset patches.
Just select a patch you like, press the "Write" button, then select the user patch location to write to, then press the write button again.
From my 'start' location, i have normal/useful patches going upwards, and freaky /unusual patches going downwards in patch numbers.
