I was a bit overboard with the 10 sec. Infact I'd just like the tone to hold for another second. But it seems to me that nomatter how strong the signal going into the synth the length of the synth is still the same. maybe try some delay to make it last longer or achieve a smoother cutof?
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Boss GT-10B
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One of the things I didn't like was having too use the ctl pedals to switch patches within the banks. There are many ways fo do this but I wanted to keep using the ctl pedals so I bought the optional FS 6 (for 60 bucks) so it would work the way I wanted it too... I think they could of left the tuner access like the GT6B. It was a pain to reach down , untill you figure out you can use the EXP sw Kinda stinks though that you have to set bypass to OFF unless you want everybody hearing you tune up. I have both pedals and for ease of use (not editing) I liked the GT6B better but for overall sound and options I think the GT10B is better except for the synth and the string patches. I thought the string patch was better on the 6B. I'm gonna try to see if I can copy the settings to the 10B.. Oh and you can definitely see the lights ..they could use em for runway markers lol!!
Overall an improvement over the 6b.. Just some minor issues I have with the pedal.
Overall an improvement over the 6b.. Just some minor issues I have with the pedal.
Another way of using the Tuner on the GT-10B is to use the Number pedal Function, where by pressing the same patch change pedal as you are actually on, activates the tuner.
True about the synth in the GT-6B being better, it tracks better in the 10B, but the 6B synth has more options to tweak. I have gotten around that by adding a Roland GR-20 synth and feeding that back into the GT-10B via the Return jack.
Besides that and no Auto Riff, the GT-10B is way more programmable and has loads more effects.
True about the synth in the GT-6B being better, it tracks better in the 10B, but the 6B synth has more options to tweak. I have gotten around that by adding a Roland GR-20 synth and feeding that back into the GT-10B via the Return jack.
Besides that and no Auto Riff, the GT-10B is way more programmable and has loads more effects.
Hey guys, could any of you guys finish selling me on this pedal, because sincerely I think its just the fact that I haven't gotten to play around with thats keeping me away. I already looked around and I love the array of effects it has but I have a couple of questions.
Individually do the most (cuz I know I can't say all) of the effects sounds like their stompbox counterparts or better?
Is there any added noise from the pedal when its on clean?
How good is it for live/recording environments?
Thanks ^^
Individually do the most (cuz I know I can't say all) of the effects sounds like their stompbox counterparts or better?
Is there any added noise from the pedal when its on clean?
How good is it for live/recording environments?
Thanks ^^
I can give you some input. I've recorded live with a drummer and a guit fiddler and we used the XLR output directly to the recording device. Sounded just fine! I'd be quite happy to do it that way again.
I don't know what the actual stomps sound like, but I can say that I've not noticed any significant noise.
I found that a fair bit of time was required to figure out how to work everything, so I can see why some folk are turned off right away, but I'm quite happy with this unit. I use it for guitar, too.
I don't know what the actual stomps sound like, but I can say that I've not noticed any significant noise.
I found that a fair bit of time was required to figure out how to work everything, so I can see why some folk are turned off right away, but I'm quite happy with this unit. I use it for guitar, too.
The only time you need to do this (as I'm sure you've figured out) is if you're in manual mode. If you have a switch dedicated to manual mode, it's easy to get in and out, and just use the number switches to change patches.
You can do what gumtown suggested, and set the numpedal function to tuner. You can also dedicate just about any other switch to a tuner on. If you have the tuner to "bypass" instead of mute, you can still use the foot pedal to turn down the volume to muted.
Actually, come to think of it, at one point I had the pedal set to turn on the tuner when I got to it's lowest range - that trick is actually in the manual somewhere, but you're basically setting it's active range to 0-1. You can still trigger the tuner (set to bypass) from one of the other switches, so you can do both mute and bypass with the tuner.
It's a very good sounding bypass system. IMO, it's pretty indistinguishable from going straight in to your amp when it's off (bypassed). I tend to always have mine running, as I'm using it's compressor right now.
To me, what makes it a hands down winner is the two channel switching/blending/dynamic switch and crossover capabilities. I've just gotten on this kick right now of playing with the various dirt sounds effecting only the highs.
Having said that, they were smart enough to include a dry blend, and also a low frequency level with each overdrive model. No more losing low end on a dirt patch.
Most of the effects do sound like the individual stomp pedals, but you need to get your thinking past stomp boxes, because the GT-10B does soooo much more. With stomps you are limited to the four control knobs, where the GT-10B has those controls plus more settings.
Plus the effects can be controlled in realtime by Pedals or internal oscillators (VCO), or with input level.
With all the effects turned off, the unit has no percievable affect on the tone, really flat. The GT-10 also produces no noise or hiss.
Excellent Live and for recording, you have 2 options for recording. either the 2 XLR outputs, or you can go digital and use the USB connection.
This is fun to do when using panning delays. I find it to be a useful effect in a smallish room where the crowd gets the full stereo effect, but I don't know if it would translate well to larger venues where, I believe, most stuff is run in mono. It's definitely fun to do with your buds at a jam.
not 2 amps as such, but i do use stereo out to a small P.A for practice.
Quite good for a stereo setup this beast is..
by enabling dual channels, and placing the channel merge at the end of the chain to keep channel separation, effects can be used differently on each channel, giving a different sound between left and right speakers.
Some of the GT-10B effects are stereo and some are mono, so be careful with placement of effects after the channel merge point.
Quite good for a stereo setup this beast is..
by enabling dual channels, and placing the channel merge at the end of the chain to keep channel separation, effects can be used differently on each channel, giving a different sound between left and right speakers.
Some of the GT-10B effects are stereo and some are mono, so be careful with placement of effects after the channel merge point.
Speaking of running two outputs - it's got two XLR outs so you can send (in addition to a stereo signal) one dry DI channel and one effected DI.
I came up with a whole crapload of reasons/cool stuff I dig about it on the drive home from my gig tonight - sorta forgot them but I'll weigh in here as they come back to me.
EDIT: Here's one - I figured out a way to get two inputs running on it. Not real useful for BG, but the pickup system on my DB is a two channel thing, and it's become very useful for that. Basically I put the s/r module in channel B, with channel mode in Dual Mix. The Return is very low impedance, so if it's something other than what I'm using it for (the fingerboard pickup for "clicks" when playing rockabilly, etc.) you'd want a buffer, like a Boss pedal or something, in front of it.
I came up with a whole crapload of reasons/cool stuff I dig about it on the drive home from my gig tonight - sorta forgot them but I'll weigh in here as they come back to me.
EDIT: Here's one - I figured out a way to get two inputs running on it. Not real useful for BG, but the pickup system on my DB is a two channel thing, and it's become very useful for that. Basically I put the s/r module in channel B, with channel mode in Dual Mix. The Return is very low impedance, so if it's something other than what I'm using it for (the fingerboard pickup for "clicks" when playing rockabilly, etc.) you'd want a buffer, like a Boss pedal or something, in front of it.
Ooooo! Subscribing to mega thread! Oh and some tweeking of that tuner trick and you can make a "swtichless" wah type deal 
Yeah, that too. You could use that function to program all kinds of things into that expression pedal. Another one I'm going to try, but haven't yet - is set an overdrive in the "off" state when the pedal is at it's lowest range (ie raised) then as you bring it in, first the od turns on, then your gain increases as you continue to lower the pedal. If that's bringing in too much volume, (more gain = more volume) at the same time you can have another function that will lower the OD effect volume as you lower the pedal. Both functions (raising the gain, lowering the drive output) don't even need to have the same range of values. So you could have the drive going from 0 - 60 as you lower the pedal, but you can set the drive vol to only go from say 50 to 40 as the pedal is lowered. That way you could still get a volume boost, just a more controlled one.
Okay, here's a little trick that I figured out for myself - AFAIK it isn't even mentioned in the manual.
There are (for those of you who don't have one yet) two effects modules called FX1 and FX2. These are for the effects that don't have their own effect modules - stuff like the synth, octave, phasers, etc. and also a second and third instance of some of the compressors and also EQ.
Like any of the other modules, you can only have one of each on in a patch. So if you've got FX1 on as an octave, and FX2 after it in the chain, say maybe with a phaser. Let's say that's for the verse in whatever tune your doing.
So what do you do if you want to use another FX effect in that song in another part? Instead of making another patch, you can, for example, set a control pedal to switch off the FX1 unit, and change FX2 from a phaser to any of it's other effects.- the synth, 2x2 chorus, maybe a particular eq setting you need for that part, etc etc.
And just to clarify, the part that I think is really neat (that isn't really spelled out in the manual) is that the patch will save the settings, on the FX1 & 2 modules for all it's effects. So when you switch back and forth between two effects in the same module, you're not just getting the default setting, but what you'd already dialed in.
It's like having 60 additional effects available in each patch.
There are (for those of you who don't have one yet) two effects modules called FX1 and FX2. These are for the effects that don't have their own effect modules - stuff like the synth, octave, phasers, etc. and also a second and third instance of some of the compressors and also EQ.
Like any of the other modules, you can only have one of each on in a patch. So if you've got FX1 on as an octave, and FX2 after it in the chain, say maybe with a phaser. Let's say that's for the verse in whatever tune your doing.
So what do you do if you want to use another FX effect in that song in another part? Instead of making another patch, you can, for example, set a control pedal to switch off the FX1 unit, and change FX2 from a phaser to any of it's other effects.- the synth, 2x2 chorus, maybe a particular eq setting you need for that part, etc etc.
And just to clarify, the part that I think is really neat (that isn't really spelled out in the manual) is that the patch will save the settings, on the FX1 & 2 modules for all it's effects. So when you switch back and forth between two effects in the same module, you're not just getting the default setting, but what you'd already dialed in.
It's like having 60 additional effects available in each patch.
i should mention, a GT-10B software patch editor which i have been working on for quite a while "GT-10BFxFloorBoard" has just been upgraded, and is free to download and use.
Link Removed
Some of the new cool featu
res make the Assigns more accessable with separate Edit Pages.
Text Summary reports on Patch and System/Global settings,
Multi clipboards for working with up to 5 patches.
Effect partial pasting of any effect part from any of the 5 clipboards to the current patch.
Bulk Patch Editing allows a favourite effect, assign or preamp setting can be replicated across multiple patches.
Also GT-10 & GT-6B patch conversion.
Audition patches from Bulk patch Backup Files.
Patch file format compatable with the Boss Librarian.
Even if you don't have a GT-10B, the software can give you an insight into the workings and effects of the Boss GT-10B.
Link Removed
Some of the new cool featu
res make the Assigns more accessable with separate Edit Pages.
Text Summary reports on Patch and System/Global settings,
Multi clipboards for working with up to 5 patches.
Effect partial pasting of any effect part from any of the 5 clipboards to the current patch.
Bulk Patch Editing allows a favourite effect, assign or preamp setting can be replicated across multiple patches.
Also GT-10 & GT-6B patch conversion.
Audition patches from Bulk patch Backup Files.
Patch file format compatable with the Boss Librarian.
Even if you don't have a GT-10B, the software can give you an insight into the workings and effects of the Boss GT-10B.
Thanks gumtownbassman! I haven't figured out to move the channel merge point yet though.
