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Boss GT-10B
- Thread starter BassBus
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Dudes, this is exactly what I'm looking for, right now!! And it seems crazy that this unit, for all its flexibility, can't vary the rate of it's LFO.
Another idea is to assign the Exp Pedal as Gumtown said to Master BPM and change the lowest and highest values to your intended effect. Only gives you two 'detents', but it's a start. Then you can use the B channel to run triplets or some variation of those two BPMs, for a total of four distinct rates. You could set up EXP PDL 2, also. I just tried it. Fun, but a bit cumbersome switching.
Here's another question for you gurus - can the CTRL2 PDL be set to moment, instead of toggle, so you can press down to switch to channel B for a single beat/etc, and then just release, instead of having to double clutch it?
Can the Wah's be used for this, instead?
Sev
PS, Gumtown, thanks x1,000,000 for all your posts about this unit and for writing the software editor. It's frickin awesome.
How do the effects on the GT-10B compare to the individual Boss pedals in terms of quality and control? e.g. GT-10B overdrive and chorus vs ODB-3 and CEB-3 respectively?
Quality of the effects are simular, and the general controls are much the same, but the GT-10B has controllers called 'Assigns" which allow complex control of the multi-effects version of the effect, using Pedal switches, Expression pedal, internal oscillators, or input picking strength, to control any or all of the effect's parameter settings.
With the overdrive/distortion in the GT-10B you get to choose from 12 different types of drive.
For the Chorus, the CEB-3 pedal give you 4 controls, Effect level, rate, LPF, and Depth. The GT-10B give you 3 Modes mono/stereo1/stereo2, Rate , Depth, PreDelay, Low Pass Filter, High Pass Filter, and Effect Level control.
The Master BPM assigned to the Expression pedal works fine as a variable Rate control for the LFO (wave pedal), just ensure the assign source mode is set to Moment, rather than Toggle, or you will only get the 2 min/max states happening.
Yes, with the assigns only, make sure your source mode is set to Moment instead of Toggle. In the Pedal Control part, i usually only set the CTL pedal to do pedal LED Momentary, or Pedal LED toggle, and let the Assign setting determine the actual functions.
Yes, i used the Wah both normal, with the EXP pedal sweeping the filter, and also with the Wave Pedal LFO controller Assigned to the Wah Pedal Position, and then using the EXP pedal to control the oscillating LFO rate.
Cheers Thanks, hope it is useful
Yes, i used the Wah both normal, with the EXP pedal sweeping the filter, and also with the Wave Pedal LFO controller Assigned to the Wah Pedal Position, and then using the EXP pedal to control the oscillating LFO rate.
Cheers Thanks, hope it is useful
But the Wah's can't actually be re-Assigned as a source to something else, right?
FXFlbd is not just useful. It's indispensable.
I'd like to point out that, in addition to the Assigns, the Overdrive effect by itself has some adjust-ability that you wouldn't get in a pedal. All 12 models have not only a dry blend, but also a the ability to blend in the low frequencies from the dry signal. Add that to the channel routing options - which you can use to blend in a guitar amp model to your bass sound (I use this for gritty sounds sometimes).
In short, definitely cooler than an ODB-3.
But the Wah's can't actually be re-Assigned as a source to something else, right?
FXFlbd is not just useful. It's indispensable.
Yes they can be re-assigned as a Target, and controlled by any of the same Source controllers as any other effect.
The main contolling paramenter would be "PDL/FX-Wah Pedal Position".
You will need to leave the actual Pedal Fx switched 'on'.
Just got myself a GT10b, but am having trouble getting the librarian to read a .syx file I downloaded, and the link to Link Removed is dead cos I was gonna give that a go... can anyone link me to where I can get it? Thanks
That link usually works, but it isn't working for me at the moment, either. Hopefully, it's just a temporary situation.
Here is a link to the direct downloadJust got myself a GT10b, but am having trouble getting the librarian to read a .syx file I downloaded, and the link to Link Removed is dead cos I was gonna give that a go... can anyone link me to where I can get it? Thanks
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fxfloorboard/files/
just select the correct version for the GT-10B.
The linking website has been down for a few weeks now, the Web Host suddenly left town, so i have to sort out another site.
The Boss Librarian won't read *.syx type files as they are made with GT-10BFxFloorBoard editor, only *.gxg and will import *.mid file types.
Thanks very much, it is appreciated
Really looking fwd to having a good play with the patches, been a while since I had anything new, this is an update from me using an ME8B! So its a whole world of different!
I'm surprised there aren't more shared patches going round.
For all of my complaints thus far such as wave pdl not supporting rate change and the dirt sounding poor I really do like the GT-10B the most of any multieffects I've used to date. I've owned a variety of BOSS multieffects, Behringer VAmp, various Line6 Pod, and currently own the Line6 M9.
Specifically BOSS has really provided a HUGE amount of control and customization, including controlling external gear via MIDI. It's seriously awesome.
Note you can supposedly send product suggestions to this email address: [email protected] I say "supposedly" as I've never received a confirmation of my comments, or a reply against them.
Specifically BOSS has really provided a HUGE amount of control and customization, including controlling external gear via MIDI. It's seriously awesome.
Note you can supposedly send product suggestions to this email address: [email protected] I say "supposedly" as I've never received a confirmation of my comments, or a reply against them.
Can anyone confirm/deny the the GT-10B supports MIDI THRU?
Based on my testing today it does not appear to. That's always so damn annoying.
Also, can anyone confirm the GT-10B can actually hold to a MIDI Time Clock (MTC) reliably or if it deviates significantly? Quick testing on my end seems to indicate it has a fairly significant deviation and doesn't appear to re-sync with each N measure or anything. Over the course of a handful of measures a quater-beat synced tremolo, for example, ends up being way off the click.
Based on my testing today it does not appear to. That's always so damn annoying.
Also, can anyone confirm the GT-10B can actually hold to a MIDI Time Clock (MTC) reliably or if it deviates significantly? Quick testing on my end seems to indicate it has a fairly significant deviation and doesn't appear to re-sync with each N measure or anything. Over the course of a handful of measures a quater-beat synced tremolo, for example, ends up being way off the click.
Can anyone confirm/deny the the GT-10B supports MIDI THRU?
Based on my testing today it does not appear to. That's always so damn annoying.
Also, can anyone confirm the GT-10B can actually hold to a MIDI Time Clock (MTC) reliably or if it deviates significantly? Quick testing on my end seems to indicate it has a fairly significant deviation and doesn't appear to re-sync with each N measure or anything. Over the course of a handful of measures a quater-beat synced tremolo, for example, ends up being way off the click.
No- the GT-10B does not support midi thru, one would think this would be a standard option to support midi daisy chaining.
For the midi time clock sync, there is a setting on the GT-10B for Internal or Auto (default). I vagley remember an issue with the GT-10 midi sync, the result was to ensure you are selecting BPM settings in effects and not the 1~100 (or what ever) numeric settings.I don't know if the GT-10B cares for extra midi data sent with the Time clock (can't remember- is it active sensing?).
EDIT: must also add that when the 2 midi ports on the GT-10B are used, they become disabled while the USB is connected. The GT-10B can only be one midi device.. i.e. midi data does not pass thru the USB to the GT-10B midi ports either.
I've only connected via MIDI, not USB. I'm still editing all of my patches by hand via the on board GUI.
My GT-10B is successfully receiving the MTC and changing the tempo based on the clock received. However, what it doesn't appear to do is periodically re-sync to the clock and thus the GT-10B tempo wavers from the click.
While the clock is being received you simply see "MIDI" in the bottom right corner while viewing rate based effects, but it doesn't indicate what it's computing the actual BMP as in this mode. If you have a CTRL pedal set to Master BPM you will see it's LED blink, theoretically in time to the MIDI clock. However, watching the light and listening to my click the LED is not blinking in sync
When you stop the clock the GT-10B reverts to showing the previous (tap/master/whatever) tempo was being used prior to MTC being received.
Can anyone else send a MIDI clock to their GT-10B, set a quarter not slicer or tremolo, and see if the GT-10B maintains tempo for more than a couple measures?
I have a Line6 M9 that has similar issues - no MIDI Thru, doesn't hold to the MIDI Clock, though it takes closer to 30 measures for the M9 to become noticeably unsynced where the GT-10B seems to become unsynced after just a few measures.
My GT-10B is successfully receiving the MTC and changing the tempo based on the clock received. However, what it doesn't appear to do is periodically re-sync to the clock and thus the GT-10B tempo wavers from the click.
While the clock is being received you simply see "MIDI" in the bottom right corner while viewing rate based effects, but it doesn't indicate what it's computing the actual BMP as in this mode. If you have a CTRL pedal set to Master BPM you will see it's LED blink, theoretically in time to the MIDI clock. However, watching the light and listening to my click the LED is not blinking in sync
When you stop the clock the GT-10B reverts to showing the previous (tap/master/whatever) tempo was being used prior to MTC being received.
Can anyone else send a MIDI clock to their GT-10B, set a quarter not slicer or tremolo, and see if the GT-10B maintains tempo for more than a couple measures?
I have a Line6 M9 that has similar issues - no MIDI Thru, doesn't hold to the MIDI Clock, though it takes closer to 30 measures for the M9 to become noticeably unsynced where the GT-10B seems to become unsynced after just a few measures.
I forgot to pack mine for my Saturday night gig and the drummer was genuinely disappointed. It killed Friday night.
Apparently my MIDI CLOCK issue is that I'm sending MTC which is timecode, not clock. Though the GT-10B still syncs to it at first. I'm not a MIDI expert so I don't know the functional data that MTC sends VS MIDI Clock, but apparently there's some overlap in the data stream as both the GT-10B and Line6 M9 attempt to sync to it at first. Unfortunately MIDI CLOCK is older technology and Reaper can only transmit MTC/SPP not MIDI CLOCK specifically, or so it seems.
However, my Roland TD-6V appears to send MIDI CLOCK. The sync is much closer, but still seems to waver ever so slightly now and again. But it went from unusable to seemingly usable. Needs more testing.
However, my Roland TD-6V appears to send MIDI CLOCK. The sync is much closer, but still seems to waver ever so slightly now and again. But it went from unusable to seemingly usable. Needs more testing.
