Does it have drum patterns? I saw the little metronome thingy in the corner of one of the displays..
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Boss GT-1B finally here
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A Looper, but no indication that there are any drum patters or a discrete rhythm module in the GT-1B. At least none I could find in the manuals.
Okay thanks Jimfist.
Looks like the B3n still has a few more tricks up its sleeve!
Take care,
Brent
Okay thanks Jimfist.
Looks like the B3n still has a few more tricks up its sleeve!
Take care,
Brent
I hope we can all calmly make comparisons to other similar gear without this turning all tribal.
There aren't many bass multi-fx in this price range, so the popularity of the Zoom B3, and now the B3n, might make the direct comparisons inevitable. The overall design and general workflow are just totally different, and each pedal could be great depending on what the exact need and usage might be.One of the best features of the ZOOM B3n is that you can do as many (multiple) iterations of the same effect within a patch as memory and slots will allow, and freely re-ordering effects slots in any way you choose. These are great flexibility features that you don't generally see, especially in the low end market.
The GT-1B has some nice features that you don't find with the ZOOM stuff, and that's a good thing IMO.
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Apparently bassits can't get it all: A self contained bass specific (whatever that means) multifx with a large selection of effects, flexible routing, easy bypass and built in expression pedal? Currently there is nothing like that (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, if I have to make a compromise, an integrated expression pedal with toe switch is more important for me than beign able to repeat effects in the same chain.
Also, I would ask for a way to bypass the unit quickly but apparently nobody needs that. You're stuck with creating an empty patch (and trying to find it later on) or waiting 2 seconds to activate the tuner. I looked at the manual and the CTRL footswitch can do that apparently
Questions...
Well, all in all, this looks promising.
Also, I would ask for a way to bypass the unit quickly but apparently nobody needs that. You're stuck with creating an empty patch (and trying to find it later on) or waiting 2 seconds to activate the tuner. I looked at the manual and the CTRL footswitch can do that apparently
Questions...
Well, all in all, this looks promising.
I disagree with most of you about the lack of xlr out.
I said it over on the b3n thread, and i'll say it here- No xlr out is better than a cheap xlr out.
run this through a nice Jdi, countryman or other readily available, relatively cheap, DI with a transformer and you're set.
I said it over on the b3n thread, and i'll say it here- No xlr out is better than a cheap xlr out.
run this through a nice Jdi, countryman or other readily available, relatively cheap, DI with a transformer and you're set.
I know it's a professional demo by a multinational- but it sounded awesome to me, I think this will be good.
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I ordered one. I've been considering a B3n, but I like Boss/Roland, so I figured I would give this a try.
Of course it'll sound good, he's playing it through a GK amp and cab 
To be perfectly honest, judging from the demo's my regular Zoom B3 sounds better than anything presented on those.
And what I heard of demos the new Zoom B3n sounds even better.
I always thought the digital multi effects Boss made sounded somewhat sterile and seriously lacking character, though admittedly the Zoom products from the early/mid 90's were worse than Boss at that point, those sounded right out fake, cheap and horrible.
It seems though, if these demo's does the GT-B1 any justice, that while Zoom's products took a giant leap in quality since then, Boss's products didn't really improve much on the basic character of their sounds, despite still being more expensive.
I know for sure that if I am going to invest in another digital multi effect unit, it will not be a Boss, but a Zoom without one doubt in my mind.
Could be those demo's just happen to be bad demo's not really showing the full potential GT-B1 tonal range, but I can say for sure, I didn't like what I heard in those.
And what I heard of demos the new Zoom B3n sounds even better.
I always thought the digital multi effects Boss made sounded somewhat sterile and seriously lacking character, though admittedly the Zoom products from the early/mid 90's were worse than Boss at that point, those sounded right out fake, cheap and horrible.
It seems though, if these demo's does the GT-B1 any justice, that while Zoom's products took a giant leap in quality since then, Boss's products didn't really improve much on the basic character of their sounds, despite still being more expensive.
I know for sure that if I am going to invest in another digital multi effect unit, it will not be a Boss, but a Zoom without one doubt in my mind.
Could be those demo's just happen to be bad demo's not really showing the full potential GT-B1 tonal range, but I can say for sure, I didn't like what I heard in those.
If your looking for something to complement a existing board the MS-3 is probably more what your looking for, it seems to have everything except the preamp section, including being able to work as a midi controller (but not having midi in) BOSS Announces the MS-3 Multi-effect Switcher It seems to sit as the next level up from this.
They have modified many of the effects algorithms from the GT-100 / Katana to work better for bass, this is easier to see in the MS-3 where both the guitar and bass effects are included, theres stuff like "Slow Gear" then "Bass Slow Gear" it also has bass specific drives and preamps. I think mostly what there trying to say is they haven't taken a GT-1 given it some different branding and put a B on it they have sat down and modified the effects / drives / preamps so they work well on bass. I have no doubt its the same core engine as the GT-100, Katana and MS-3 though doing something different just for bass would be silly and there core engine would have been designed to let them do stuff like this.
When the GT1 was announced, reviewers were all over it. There are 3 demos of the bass version, none of which cover individual effects or models, just built in patches which tend to suck anyway.
Not even Anderton's bothered to review it. Such is life for a bassist.
If anyone knows someone who is in a position to make a demo / review video of it, please contact them and tell them we want a demo of the amp and dirt effects, and if possible a comparison to the B3n. Thanks
Not even Anderton's bothered to review it. Such is life for a bassist.
If anyone knows someone who is in a position to make a demo / review video of it, please contact them and tell them we want a demo of the amp and dirt effects, and if possible a comparison to the B3n. Thanks
@simotek - this really does come down to a "different strokes", preferred work flow/live performance usage thing for me. Most of my work is in live performance across a few different genres and gig scenarios, so I not only need to be nimble as a bassist, but also prefer that of the gear I use live. I guess all I'm saying is that the unit, as it stands, would be a slower process for patch creation (I'd want to be hooked up to a computer), and for locating individual parameters for adjustment, as well as simple individual "stomp" switching on/off individually as I would with a traditional stomp pedal board.
It's still very, very early for user videos and demos. I'm willing to bet there will be plenty within a few months of the GT-1B hittiing the market.
I don't like multi-effect and i have a nice pedalboard already. But GT-1B looks really cool. Let's see the next reviews, maybe I'll get one to try it.
I guess the thing with Andertons is for a Bass demos they bring a guy in and record 5-6 videos in a day or two then he comes back and flims another day and they do more, given that there was no video this week I guess they've run out again so the last filming was probably quite some time back and they probably didn't have the unit. Provided they have access to one i'm guessing we will see it in the next round of bass videos. Whereas for the guitar videos you'll notice the last ones were with Pete and Lee which is not there usual combo of presenters but they both work at Andertons so when the Boss rep comes in Monday saying, hey I have this shiny new gear can you have a video ready for it on release day they can go yes sure and will have incentive to do it right away as they will get more hits.
Having said that theres also only 3-4 really good MS-3 demos out there for guitar and that was released a month ago. But in most cases either stores need to wait till they have them in stock or in some cases reviewers need to wait until they can buy one / the company has a spare they can ship.
I do agree it would be nice if there was more bass focused review channels. If I get a MS-3 I might try and shoot some videos for it, but I only will publish them if i'm happy with the quality and I don't have much video production gear and buying a MS-3 i'm not going to have money for new gear.
So would this be better sounding than their almost 10 years old bass multi effects flagship GT-10B?
