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BOSS ME 90B
- Thread starter Krisfield
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[nevermind...it was a joke...
]Has NuX ever made a dedicated bass pedal? A Trident Bass would be cool, though. On paper, at least, lots of cool features for a fairly basic-needs multi-fx, if that's all you need.
Should have asked - really meant to say - a dedicated Bass MULTI-FX pedal.
I almost went with the mg-30 since the MLD is so good. Waiting to hear more about this Boss me-90 before I decide.
A really big Hmmmmmmmm...interesting.....
These demos sound really good FWIW, knowing that it's the internet, GREAT players and top notch audio production, but very impressed. I'm going to dig a little bit harder into the owner's manual and some really odd use cases that I have. If all looks positive, I may be diving in....and I've never very keen on Boss stuff. For the price, so far this pedal looks like a winner. Being a Zoom guy (on the low end) and a Fractal guy (on the high end), that's not an easy statement for me to make.
These demos sound really good FWIW, knowing that it's the internet, GREAT players and top notch audio production, but very impressed. I'm going to dig a little bit harder into the owner's manual and some really odd use cases that I have. If all looks positive, I may be diving in....and I've never very keen on Boss stuff. For the price, so far this pedal looks like a winner. Being a Zoom guy (on the low end) and a Fractal guy (on the high end), that's not an easy statement for me to make.
Was a long time ago when I tried the Boss GT-6B, the big red one. I was using pedals and individual rack units for mostly special effects and sounds with lots of tone transitions, really specific and demanding stuff for live performance. I wasn't fond of the GT-6B modeled tones (I know, old days of COSM, I get it...not the greatest), but I also found certain control limitations that I couldn't get past. So back it went. Our guitarist also got into the GT-10 and it was OK for effects. Eventually we both went with Fractal since it allowed for the deep-dive programming we needed. Since then I've tried a couple of Boss multi-effects at big box stores, but never was thrilled with them.
It's probably not fair in some respects. My gigs would either require an extreme array of sounds and live controls, or the exact opposite, requiring a simple core tone with almost no effects. That's why I gravitated to Zoom and Fractal. The Zoom (B3, initially) always covered the simple stuff while the Fractal stuff allowed me the programming flexibility and power that not many other products can match. FWIW I've never found a product that's perfect for 100% of my needs...95% maybe, but never 100%. The FM9 is closest I've come, but even that has obvious gaps for lack of bass-specific models/algorithms.
This checks a lot boxes. Not much in the way of filters/synth which is important for my needs. Still looks good. I've never used Boss multi effects, and also have used Zoom products for a long time with very good results. I'd give this new unit its day in court.
I can see that line of reasoning. And certainly back in the days it had to be both practical and have a good tone at the same time. There weren't a lot of options dedicated for bass players either. It was either the ME-xB, which was ok-ish for that time but quickly got outpaced by the competition, or Zoom (how I hated the old 506 model. Almost made me never want to touch another multi-effect ever again
) or use guitar (multi)effects. I can see why you went for FA in the end for complex sounds. It costs a pretty penny, but you're close to perfection with one of these.FA (and perhaps Line 6 to some extend) is probably the closest you can get to having everything you need in the most complex way you can imagine, for a price. For everything else, a Zoom or similar will do just fine. They came a long way since that 506 and I'm still happy with my B6. The only thing I really still want is proper pitch shifting down. But that's a physics problem we can't solve yet (without synthesis).
Thanks for sharing
And now back to our regularly scheduled programming: The ME-90B
I’m hoping this can replace my board, mainly my Ampeg SGT and various other effects I might want to use. Any videos about the amp models? Besides what’s been posted already?
Does anyone know if this unit has smooth transitions between presets?
The Parameter Guide (system-settings p.18) says this about 'carry-over' :
1-When you switch memories, the effect’s delay/reverb sound you selected in DLY/REV is not carried
over. This does not apply to the DELAY for MOD settings
2-When you switch memories, the effect’s delay/reverb sound you selected in DLY/REV is carried over (factory setting). This does not apply to the DELAY for MOD settings."
But you might refer to 'gap-less' switching? I am also curious! Did anyone watch all the YT-content and notice?
I watched two videos… most did a “bypassed tone” then “hit switch tone” but bit back and forth… only one that was kind of like that was one doing the pedal for “s bends with reverb combined” so hard to tell as there was reverb abuse everywhere..
Can the delay only be set in ms? No BPM? And also in increments of 10ms, so no precise delay timings?
Yes, setting the delay time in ms is in 10 ms units...
One of the delay-types is 'TEMPO'. Here the delay time is set in BPM divisions.
Explained on page 8 here:
https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/ME-90B_Reference_eng01_W.pdf
One of the delay-types is 'TEMPO'. Here the delay time is set in BPM divisions.
Explained on page 8 here:
https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/ME-90B_Reference_eng01_W.pdf
Looks like spillover is addressed globally for preset switching, but what about the effect bypass switches and the exp pedal? These types of picky things are what determines overall flexibility (of control) of the effects, but honestly is a big ask of the ME-90B to accommodate all usage scenarios WRT delay spillover.
Ideally, you'd want to be able to select whether the delay/reverb is bypassed at the INPUT to the effect or at the OUTPUT. If the bypass state is on INPUT signal, then shutting it off allows whatever was input last to stay effected with tails. If the bypass state is at output, once the switch is disengaged, it's a hard shut-off with no tails.
It's unclear with the delay on the expression pedal how this functions. Typically, using delay on an exp pedal is for "swells", where the exp pedal controls signal to the input, and sometimes in parallel to the signal chain so that the dry sound persists throughout. IOW, how is the level of the non-delayed dry signal assigned in the toe-up/toe-down positions and is it adjustable?
This is a common problem specifically with reverb/delay with most multi-fx pedals on the lower end of things. Reverb and delay on bass has become more and more popular over the last 10+ years (TOOL is a favorite of mine), so this can be a problem when switching sounds in stompbox mode.
