Broughton Audio Super Thread

[Johno Dunn]

This is all highly subjective I’ve but I’d go
Tuner
Compressor
(Fx loop)
Fuzz, Overdrive, Distortion (order can change)
Modulation
Envelope filter
Delay/looper
Preamps
I put preamps last because I want to treat them like the front end of an amp. Also delay into modulation can sound amazing. I always put tremolo last in the chain before a preamp

I run mine, Bass into Noise Gate, into FX (Octaver, Filter, Dirty compressor) into preamp, into HPLPF, into clean compressor into DI.

 

[Somnambulance]

Josh hasn't done anything that wild has he? I'm no delay connoisseur but the pladask Taken delay is the most beautiful I have heard. I use it for guitar a lot. I like to set it with that oscillating sheen, but not quite oscillating. Josh would also make it small w top jacks. The one side jacks on that one are pretty weird, but it is an incredible pedal. I think he's about to do another drop of Draume verb and maybe more Feber ring mod (it's so much more than a ring mod).

yeah that delay is my favorite selay ive tried yet. hated the form of it though

 

[220_Hz]

I run mine, Bass into Noise Gate, into FX (Octaver, Filter, Dirty compressor) into preamp, into HPLPF, into clean compressor into DI.

I’ve been loving the messenger’s HPLPF at the end of my chain at home but I can’t help but wonder about putting another HPF at the front of the chain

 

[40Hz]

I’ve been loving the messenger’s HPLPF at the end of my chain at home but I can’t help but wonder about putting another HPF at the front of the chain

What would be your goal for doing that? You’d basically be cutting lows within the same frequency range in two different places. But filters are additive. Overlapping is usually redundant. Once you’ve attenuated a frequency at one point in the chain, it’s also going to be attenuated for everything else downstream from that point.

You can’t cut the same frequency twice. Once it’s gone, it’s gone - unless something (like an octaver) is putting it back in further down the line. That’s about the only situation I could see where putting two HPFs in the same chain might accomplish something useful.

 

[c5hokie]

BASS----->
Locust Star (Distortion)
Flip-top (Pre-amp)
SV-PRE (Pre-amp)
Monocomp (Compressor)
RFE
Calamity (Fuzz)
Josh Wah (Envelope Filter)
Messenger DI
-----> Focusrite Scarlett

Id probably try something like this first.

where would you stick a Studio Boost in that chain?

 

[220_Hz]

What would be your goal for doing that? You’d basically be cutting lows within the same frequency range in two different places. But filters are additive. Overlapping is usually redundant. Once you’ve attenuated a frequency at one point in the chain, it’s also going to be attenuated for everything else downstream from that point.

You can’t cut the same frequency twice. Once it’s gone, it’s gone - unless something (like an octaver) is putting it back in further down the line. That’s about the only situation I could see where putting two HPFs in the same chain might accomplish something useful.

I heard that an hpf in the front can tighten up fuzzes and overdrives, and it can help keep a hot bass from overloading other effects. I definitely would be setting the first hpf at a higher frequency than the one at the end of the chain. Also I’m pretty certain that an hpf ONLY in the front will not keep other effects from creating bass at lower freq than the cutoff later on

 

[labeledbass]

What would be your goal for doing that? You’d basically be cutting lows within the same frequency range in two different places. But filters are additive. Overlapping is usually redundant. Once you’ve attenuated a frequency at one point in the chain, it’s also going to be attenuated for everything else downstream from that point.

You can’t cut the same frequency twice. Once it’s gone, it’s gone - unless something (like an octaver) is putting it back in further down the line. That’s about the only situation where I could see (maybe) putting two HPFs in the same chain would accomplish something.

I've placed LPF before my octaves (knowing I have RFE and Messenger downstream, the end basically) to clean up the octaves response/trigger but I don't like to over EQ as well, BUT if they are the same setting, or close it can tighten up the cut. It's when people have completely different EQs all over the place things get messy. I'm trying to reduce the most EQ as I can honestly. Bass is mild, preamp is mild, I would like some pedals that have bright and deep switches though, just that, a couple of foot switches controlling a bright and cut circuit, like the Solarian honestly

 

[jacoby75]

I’ve been loving the messenger’s HPLPF at the end of my chain at home but I can’t help but wonder about putting another HPF at the front of the chain

What would be your goal for doing that? You’d basically be cutting lows within the same frequency range in two different places. But filters are additive. Overlapping is usually redundant. Once you’ve attenuated a frequency at one point in the chain, it’s also going to be attenuated for everything else downstream from that point.

You can’t cut the same frequency twice. Once it’s gone, it’s gone - unless something (like an octaver) is putting it back in further down the line. That’s about the only situation I could see where putting two HPFs in the same chain might accomplish something useful.

Yes, except it could also be useful to have an additional high or low pass filter earlier in the chain if you want it to have a certain effect on the effects that would come after it. Like cutting lows before hitting a compressor or overdrive can yield very different results from the pedals, as opposed to . . . or in addition to . . . having one at the for final tone sculpting purposes. But yes, if you cut those lows up front, there's no need to then cut them again at the end. Because they won't be there to cut.

 

[gh0st42]

What would be your goal for doing that? You’d basically be cutting lows within the same frequency range in two different places. But filters are additive. Overlapping is usually redundant. Once you’ve attenuated a frequency at one point in the chain, it’s also going to be attenuated for everything else downstream from that point.

You can’t cut the same frequency twice. Once it’s gone, it’s gone - unless something (like an octaver) is putting it back in further down the line. That’s about the only situation where I could see (maybe) putting two HPFs in the same chain would accomplish something.

Like you say, depending on your effects, you may be adding the frequency and harmonics back in, even after cutting it up front.

If I can only have one set, I put it at the end of chain for clean up before the amp.

Putting one up front as well can change how dirt pedals sound, or improve tracking of some effects by limiting the frequencies hitting their input stages.

But then again, I’m excessive and like to have front of chain and end of chain compressors too, given enough boards space.

Not at all necessary, but can open up some different textures and flexibility.

 

[220_Hz]

I've placed LPF before my octaves (knowing I have RFE and Messenger downstream, the end basically) to clean up the octaves response/trigger but I don't like to over EQ as well, BUT if they are the same setting, or close it can tighten up the cut. It's when people have completely different EQs all over the place things get messy. I'm trying to reduce the most EQ as I can honestly. Bass is mild, preamp is mild, I would like some pedals that have bright and deep switches though, just that, a couple of foot switches controlling a bright and cut circuit, like the Solarian honestly

Like you say, depending on your effects, you may be adding the frequency and harmonics back in, even after cutting it up front.

If I can only have one set, I put it at the end of chain for clean up before the amp.

Putting one up front as well can change how dirt pedals sound, or improve tracking of some effects by limiting the frequencies hitting their input stages.

But then again, I’m excessive and like to have front of chain and end of chain compressors too, given enough boards space.

Not at all necessary, but can open up some different textures and flexibility.

I’m not over EQing, just annoyed at a fuzz pedal that is overloading from my hot bass

 

[gh0st42]

where would you stick a Studio Boost in that chain?

I’d slap it near the end, right before the Messenger DI.

Basically gives you a Studio One.

 

[shoegazebass]

Those of you with preamp pedals AND a Studio One, where do you put them in your chain?

OD/Dist -> Compressor -> Mod -> Delays - > Pre Amps -> Studio One -> Amp/Interface?

Currently, I put my pre amps first in the chain and my studio one last. My thinking was the things in between the preamps and the Studio One were in the "effects loop" of the Amp. But I'm curious now about having the pre-amps at the end.

 

[gh0st42]

Those of you with preamp pedals AND a Studio One, where do you put them in your chain?

OD/Dist -> Compressor -> Mod -> Delays - > Pre Amps -> Studio One -> Amp/Interface?

Currently, I put my pre amps first in the chain and my studio one last. But I'm curious now about having the pre-amps at the end.

Studio One always goes as close to the end as possible.

Try mimic where the console strip its based on would live.

Preamps… depends on the pedal. Usually towards the end but before the Studio One if it’s mostly for character or tone shaping.

Every now and then closer to front of chain if it’s filling a dirt or overdrive roll.

 

[cosmicevan]

To para or to savey pennies for the eventual Archetype?

 

[gh0st42]

To para or to savey pennies for the eventual Archetype?

Yes

 

[MT Hope]

To para or to savey pennies for the eventual Archetype?

Y̶e̶s̶
Whatever

 

[TwototheValley]

To para or to savey pennies for the eventual Archetype?

 

[Lowendtech]

I’d slap it near the end, right before the Messenger DI.

Basically gives you a Studio One.

Good words, there.

 

[Lowendtech]

To para or to savey pennies for the eventual Archetype?

Para on the floor, Archetype on the table.

#winwin

 

[WG Plum]

Nerds.