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Bugera Veyron Now Available

BTW, What is a deal of your placement of the amp? It is on the guitar stand! You had the same setup when I saw your Youtube video(1 Luv/Hollywood Casino). Your cab vibrates that much or some kind BBC's company policy not to show the label of non-company product? I am just curious!:)

Nah, actual the reasoning is pretty simple... sometimes on some gigs I sit on my cab.
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At 18" tall the cab is at perfect chair height for me. So on corporate gigs, weddings, gigs where there's downtime, Jazz sets where everyone else is sitting, I have my own seat. And after I soundcheck live, the only time I usually need to get to my amp is to push the mute switch between sets. Not that it's hard to get to facing up at me from the floor. That's my default setup now.

The amp doesn't budge at all on top of the cab. Even the sub-4 lbs. Quilter doesn't move.

BTW I'm no longer with BBC but I still use the cab. It's that good.
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Hi ebozzz,

When I asked a question of compression ratio of my new amp, I would have never guessed that it turned out to be the way had been. Thank you so much for trying to help me! I really appreciate it!

You're very welcome! You asked a great question and it made me curious. If we could have gotten an answer it would have been cool. Not getting one doesn't really change my opinion of the amps. I still love mine!

My experience with the Music Group organization is limited to my Veyron purchase and a few additional pieces of gear (Keyboard MIDI controller, DJ controller, a pair of studio monitors, two audio interfaces & a couple of TC Helicon microphones) that I've acquired since then. I definitely heard all of the negativity about the brands before buying the Veyron but I contacted the company with general questions prior to making the purchase to gauge how they would respond if I actually had a problem that needed to be addressed. Based on those interactions, my level of comfort increased. I've been problem free with each item that I own and the support staff has been great in addressing any of the questions that I've posed. This last one wasn't as fruitful as I would have liked but as I mentioned to you previously, I still don't feel it was terrible.

Of course, I could have simply referred you to the Bugera site and suggested that you ask them yourself. :D Maybe I was just trying to make you feel more at ease....
 
Nah, actual the reasoning is pretty simple... sometimes on some gigs I sit on my cab.
:D

At 18" tall the cab is at perfect chair height for me. So on corporate gigs, weddings, gigs where there's downtime, Jazz sets where everyone else is sitting, I have my own seat. And after I soundcheck live, the only time I usually need to get to my amp is to push the mute switch between sets. Not that it's hard to get to facing up at me from the floor. That's my default setup now.

The amp doesn't budge at all on top of the cab. Even the sub-4 lbs. Quilter doesn't move.

BTW I'm no longer with BBC but I still use the cab. It's that good.
;)

Cool! Thanks! I did not think about Sitting on the cab!:laugh: Outside of box thinking!:thumbsup: I should try that too! lol
 
We don't have much selection in this market either but I have friends who like to get together and compare gear. It's a great way to know what something does in your hands. The other thing is that I will buy things I haven't heard or played as long as there's a decent return policy or I get it so far below market that I can't get hurt. I played a Veyron as soon as it hit Washington Music Center. I bought my Kustom KXB500 when GC was blowing them out. I bought an Industrial Strength Industries 8+10 cab for $300. And so on.

Yep, buy to try has become my MO. Right now I've got The Quilter, Veyron M and my most recent acquisition, an Ashdown Rootmaster RM-800 EVO that I scored new at a very significant discount. Best three amps that I've ever had at the same time....
 
You're very welcome! You asked a great question and it made me curious. If we could have gotten an answer it would have been cool. Not getting one doesn't really change my opinion of the amps. I still love mine!

My experience with the Music Group organization is limited to my Veyron purchase and a few additional pieces of gear (Keyboard MIDI controller, DJ controller, a pair of studio monitors, two audio interfaces & a couple of TC Helicon microphones) that I've acquired since then. I definitely heard all of the negativity about the brands before buying the Veyron but I contacted the company with general questions prior to making the purchase to gauge how they would respond if I actually had a problem that needed to be addressed. Based on those interactions, my level of comfort increased. I've been problem free with each item that I own and the support staff has been great in addressing any of the questions that I've posed. This last one Of course, I could have simply referred you to the Bugera site and suggested that you ask them yourself. :D Maybe I was just trying to make you feel more at ease....

I bought their keyboard amp(used one)and never have a problem either. I did not even know the company has had a bad reputation(?)! Once again, thank you for trying to get the answer! You are right! I do feel very comfortable asking questions to my fellow TBers! Great place we have here!
 
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I bought their keyboard amp(used one)and never have a problem either. I did not even know the company has had a bad reputation(?)! Once again, thank you for trying to get the answer! You are right! I do feel very comfortable asking questions to my fellow TBers! Great place we have here!

Which one did you get and how did you like it? I've got an old Roland synth. There have been a few times where decent deals have passed my way on one....
 
Which one did you get and how did you like it? I've got an old Roland synth. There have been a few times where decent deals have passed my way on one....
It is Behringer Ultratone K900. I bought it for my keyboarder(she did not have money to buy anything descent back then....)three years ago. My band likes it! It's probably not the best Keyboard amp but nobody is complaining its tone so I am cool with it! Besides, the price was right in the second hand market! lol
 
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It is Behringer Ultratone K900. I bought it for my keyboarder(she did not have money to buy anything descent back then....)three years ago. My band likes it! It's probably not the best Keyboard amp but nobody is complaining its tone so I am cool with it! Besides, the price was right in the second hand market! lol

Thanks! I only need it to be decent & reliable. I'm probably never getting out of my basement with my keys..... LOL!
 
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i love it...sounds great and puts out stupid amounts of power (don't care what it's rated at)...and it weighs in at like 7 lbs....awesome!

Let me address this specific comment since it applies to a generality of a class of products that market their rated power availability (or power handling in the case of speakers) using metrics different and significantly higher than the majority of the industry without clarity, which introduces confusion to those making a choice between products.

You say you don't care what it's rated at, yet others here have been merciless about how important the ratings are with regard to "industry standards" and "accuracy".

How would you propose to close the gap between the different rating methods, or is it more like you don't care about the difference because one product is much less expensive than another an therefore the marketing oriented numbers are more acceptable?

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Let me address this specific comment since it allows to a generality of a class of products that market their rated power availability (or power handling in the case of speakers) using metrics different and significantly higher than the majority of the industry without clarity, which introduces confusion to those making a choice between products.

You say you don't care what it's rated at, yet others here have been merciless about how important the ratings are with regard to "industry standards" and "accuracy".

How would you propose to close the gap between the different rating methods, or is it more like you don't care about the difference because one product is much less expensive than another an therefore the marketing oriented numbers are more acceptable?

well i did some research before i started looking for the veyron mosfet...i knew the 2000 watt reference was rubbish...but every review i read on this amp was glowing...so i found one and bought it (right here in the classifieds)...
i run it with 2 ampeg 4x10 cabs, and i know when to go easy on the volume knob (i usually run the volume around 3) as i know what speakers sound like when they are being overdriven...so basically i don't need to know whether the 2000 watt claim is or isn't real...don't care! it sounds awesome as is and that's all that matters.

it seems most amp users are obsessed with wattage ratings...i'm not, it either has enough or it doesn't ...either it's loud enough or it isn't...it either sounds good or it doesn't...find what you like and rock it!
 
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Too bad no two independent MI amp makers agree on power ratings. But as long as Music Tribe agrees with itself, they will be fine within their own brands.

Don't overlook Music Tribe also bought Coolaudio at the turn of the century. Making them one of the few MI companies that oversees manufacturing of their own chips, and semiconductors. Semiconductors available for sale to other MI makers.
 
Cool. What does that actually have to do with subject of this thread, a specific pair of bass amps? Not the entire history of Behringer.

Any experience with the Veyrons? Any insight on their performance or reliability?

Behringer's reputation may be what it is but are you unaware of any hyperbole in regards to folks who constantly beat the negativity drum? I'm not... it's consistent and predictable.

Look at the Midas comment. Behringer has owned them for going on ten years yet them not owning them that long was offered as proof that Behringer wouldn't have had access to their IP during the development of the Veyrons. Which wasn't true. Which begs the question... why even bother to go out on that limb? Do facts matter?

That's my issue with this tact. Of course people are allowed to do what they do but IMO if people want to educate others in a cautionary fashion it helps to be factual.
"Tack." It's a sailing term. Further, the lawsuits were real - they settled out of court and Behringer desisted. I haven't mentioned their bloated power ratings until now. If you want facts, there are plenty of them out there.
 
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"Tack." It's a sailing term. Further, the lawsuits were real - they settled out of court and Behringer desisted. I haven't mentioned their bloated power ratings until now. If you want facts, there are plenty of them out there.

Okay.
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The fact is that you're saying they settled all of their lawsuits... which isn't actually factual. But you state it as fact which again I find problematic, much like your misinformed statement about Midas. And a settlement is not an admission of guilt, which I would've thought you'd know. As far as the typo at least you're correct on that.
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And none of this has any bearing on the amps in question. Not that that matters, eh?

BTW slagging on one brand doesn't make another any better so I'm not sure exactly what your point is here... but you're wellcome to it (figured I'd give you another typo to catch;))
 
well i did some research before i started looking for the veyron mosfet...i knew the 2000 watt reference was rubbish...but every review i read on this amp was glowing...so i found one and bought it (right here in the classifieds)...
i run it with 2 ampeg 4x10 cabs, and i know when to go easy on the volume knob (i usually run the volume around 3) as i know what speakers sound like when they are being overdriven...so basically i don't need to know whether the 2000 watt claim is or isn't real...don't care! it sounds awesome as is and that's all that matters.

it seems most amp users are obsessed with wattage ratings...i'm not, it either has enough or it doesn't ...either it's loud enough or it isn't...it either sounds good or it doesn't...find what you like and rock it!

This obsession is real. It seems that for some, actual performance is trumped by written specs... they don't care how loud or clean an amp gets, if they think the spec is bogus they can't like what they hear. It's as if they've never heard amps with "better" reputations come up short against amps with bogus ratings. To the point where I've seen people who were otherwise happy with their gear become disenchanted over the specs. Or state that until someone slaps a lab coat on and provides charts they won't touch it. Must make for some fun non-gigs.
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Okay.
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The fact is that you're saying they settled all of their lawsuits... which isn't actually factual. But you state it as fact which again I find problematic, much like your misinformed statement about Midas. And a settlement is not an admission of guilt, which I would've thought you'd know. As far as the typo at least you're correct on that.
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And none of this has any bearing on the amps in question. Not that that matters, eh?

BTW slagging on one brand doesn't make another any better so I'm not sure exactly what your point is here... but you're wellcome to it (figured I'd give you another typo to catch;))
My point on the settlement is that Boss and Mackie prevailed in that Behringer desisted. As far as knowing what a settlement means, I've been an expert witness on over 200 legal cases, six of which went to trial. I suppose I could do some deeper research on Behringer to provide you with additional factual support regarding their business practices.
 
My point on the settlement is that Boss and Mackie prevailed in that Behringer desisted. As far as knowing what a settlement means, I've been an expert witness on over 200 legal cases, six of which went to trial. I suppose I could do some deeper research on Behringer to provide you with additional factual support regarding their business practices.

Did Boss or Mackie have an amp that is in any way similar to the Veyrons?
 
My point on the settlement is that Boss and Mackie prevailed in that Behringer desisted. As far as knowing what a settlement means, I've been an expert witness on over 200 legal cases, six of which went to trial. I suppose I could do some deeper research on Behringer to provide you with additional factual support regarding their business practices.

This tangent started with the unfounded assertion that maybe Bugera didn't design their compression scheme... based on absolutely nothing. No proof provided. Then you made the easily verified to be untrue statement about Midas. Behringer has been involved in lots of lawsuits, as plaintiff or defendant. They didn't settle all of them.

You're doing a great job, Munji.
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