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Building Walking Basslines Lesson 1

#161
edfriedland said:
Slybass - no need to back off, just consider how your words will effect others. You can say what you need to say. Like I said, I agree with the facts. Internet threads are a difficult way to communicate and people read things that are not being said, and others write things that are not being said... So, that's my point.


RE: the inactivity of this thread... well, I hope it means everyone is taking their time and learning the material. I'll check in once in a while. If it dies due to lack of interest, so be it.
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Since my main language is french, I don't know all the finest of english. But that said, I'm used to teach at university level and this kindergarden approach is not my cup of tea.

Just consider that you have a chance to teach a little bit here and go further in the depth of the lessons IMO.

No hard feeling now,

Sly
 
#166
I don't have the book in front of me, but my recollection is that the "double chromatic" refers to using two chromatic notes in a row to approach your target note.

For example, if you are playing a Bb chord, and approaching the root of an Eb chord, you might play F, E, Eb. The E natural is a chromatic approach to the Eb. The F is a chromatic approach to the E natural, and therefore a "double chromatic" approach to the Eb.

The F, of course, is also the fifth of the Bb chord, which makes that line a very effective way to connect the two chords.
 
#167
Stacatto said:
Practicing + absorbing, here. Continually re-reading earlier questions asked, and responses. I'll make a few recordings along the way for self-critique...
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Ditto. Taking it slowly when I have the time, which is not often. Life gets in the way. Bass is just a hobby. Thoroughly enjoying the discussion and learning lots from it. Thank you, Ed, for your input and all others who are contributing to the discussion. Malcolm, I'm learning much from your input also. Thanks. I'm devoting some time to modes tonight to try to grasp what you guys are saying. New territory for me.
 
#168
marcss said:
Am I imagining things, or has this thread died? It appears that the people who would benefit most from this book and this project have all lost interest or been scared off... Or maybe everyone is sitting back and soaking in the discussion?
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Soaking..................

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#171
Ed

I am working through it, but not many questions, and it's in conjunction with my regular study and practice. I've already had a nagging question answered from my Jazz Bass study. I should have started with BWBL.

Its just time and effort, with the occasional question, and I am happy to have a place to ask it now.

Thanks Ed.
 
#172
Ed,

I have decided to start working on the diatonic modes. Specifically, I am working through the chord changes of Standard #8. It appears that all the chords are diatonically correct in the key of Bb except for the D7. I know that the dominant chord here could typically be some sort of altered chord so is it OK to play a phrygian scale for the D7 chord?

Also, does the dominant chord leading into the Gm7 mean I should treat the Gm7 as a mode other than aeolian?
 
#173
Just arrived from a two-week vacation without bass or computer, and now using the ongoing discussions as an extra to the book, so no questions or useful remarks right now. Oh, yes, when picking up my bass an hour or so ago, I noticed that I didn't play the same exercise (from the ones with only //// notation) the same way each time I repeated: different ways of chosing fifths and octaves. I actually enjoyed the difference in sound! Yeah, I'm still in that part of the book :D

By the way: great to have Ed's input: it doubles the (already high) value of the book!:hyper:
 
#174
gmahoog said:
Ed,

I have decided to start working on the diatonic modes. Specifically, I am working through the chord changes of Standard #8. It appears that all the chords are diatonically correct in the key of Bb except for the D7. I know that the dominant chord here could typically be some sort of altered chord so is it OK to play a phrygian scale for the D7 chord?

Also, does the dominant chord leading into the Gm7 mean I should treat the Gm7 as a mode other than aeolian?
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That tune (Autumn Leaves) is in Bb major/G minor, so the D7 chord is functioning as the V7 of Gm. The F# of the D7 is the one non-diatonic note in the whole tune. The easy way to deal with it is to keep everything in Bb, but substitute F# for F natural on that one chord. You get this scale: D Eb F# G A Bb C D - which is actually D Phrygian natural 3 - the 5th mode of G Harmonic Minor.

A bit ahead of the game with all that, but since you asked...
 
#175
edfriedland said:
That tune (Autumn Leaves) is in Bb major/G minor, so the D7 chord is functioning as the V7 of Gm. The F# of the D7 is the one non-diatonic note in the whole tune. The easy way to deal with it is to keep everything in Bb, but substitute F# for F natural on that one chord. You get this scale: D Eb F# G A Bb C D - which is actually D Phrygian natural 3 - the 5th mode of G Harmonic Minor.

A bit ahead of the game with all that, but since you asked...
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Thanks for responding Ed. Sorry to go so far ahead, but I have been working with this book off and on for about a year. I'm just trying to get the scalar stuff going while I keep reviewing the other approaches. It's not too bad when using one approach method at a time, but to mix it up is a real challenge.
 
#176
marcss said:
Am I imagining things, or has this thread died? It appears that the people who would benefit most from this book and this project have all lost interest or been scared off... Or maybe everyone is sitting back and soaking in the discussion?
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This thread quickly became disorganized, cluttered and chaotic. I have decided to drop out of the discussion and just go through the book on my own until I see some sort of organization. My brain was starting to hurt from the bickering earlier on in this thread.


What happened to the idea of:
thread 1; lesson 1: 158, chromatic
thread 2; lesson 2: dominant
thread 3, so on and so fourth
 
#179
gmahoog said:
I think it is best to have just the one thread. It's an awful lot to ask Ed to monitor several threads. There is nothing wrong with asking questions about the early lessons because many of us are reviewing those lessons as we proceed further into the book.
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My challenge to you would be, implement a better idea to keep people engaged in the learning without upsetting others. It's easy to point out the flaws in someone else's plan, making a better plan is where it gets hard.

P.S. Never reply to negative comments while listening to Rammstein
 
#180
amosjones said:
My challenge to you would be, implement a better idea to keep people engaged in the learning without upsetting others. It's easy to point out the flaws in someone else's plan, making a better plan is where it gets hard.

P.S. Never reply to negative comments while listening to Rammstein
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I think the thread has been going pretty smooth since Ed started chiming in. So my suggestion or "plan" is to use this thread to ask questions regardless of where you are in the book.

P.S. Never reply to replies of negative comments while listening to Rush. :)
 

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