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Cancer 1....My pop 0
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Mike, damn dude.
Like kserg said though dude, it's still 0-0, and don't let your dad forget that - YOU need to keep a positive attitude in his presence at all times: no finger pointing, no anger, no sadness, no remorse, and no surrender!
I do feel for you, just under a year ago, I lost my mother, partially to lung cancer (she had a laundry list of health issues, due to poor choices in life
). She had just gotten 15% of one lung removed, and when I saw her a couple of months later, she was SMOKING A CIGARETTE!!!
MY RANT:
My father, and both of my sisters continue to smoke. I have REPEATEDLY told them all that I will not attend another "lung cancer funeral", to no avail. Cigarettes are as close to evil as an inanimate object can come, and those that profit on them ARE evil, in my opinion. I live in the tobacco capital of the world too, so I'm surrounded by it in every form, heck Lorillard is about a 10 minute drive from where I'm sitting as I type this...if there were a place I'd like to see fire-bombed in the middle of the night, that's it (no, I'm not going to do it myself, but I won't shed one tear if it happens). If all of these companies went out of business tomorrow, I would be a happy man. Y'know the DECREASE in health care costs would more than make up for the lost income from these places going under, well, except for the salaries of the upper management, but THOSE death-dealers can go suck an egg.
And if anyone reading this smokes, PLEASE FOR CRIPES SAKE QUIT NOW!
Bottom line dude, we're here for you, you be THERE for your dad.
Like kserg said though dude, it's still 0-0, and don't let your dad forget that - YOU need to keep a positive attitude in his presence at all times: no finger pointing, no anger, no sadness, no remorse, and no surrender!
I do feel for you, just under a year ago, I lost my mother, partially to lung cancer (she had a laundry list of health issues, due to poor choices in life
). She had just gotten 15% of one lung removed, and when I saw her a couple of months later, she was SMOKING A CIGARETTE!!!MY RANT:
My father, and both of my sisters continue to smoke. I have REPEATEDLY told them all that I will not attend another "lung cancer funeral", to no avail. Cigarettes are as close to evil as an inanimate object can come, and those that profit on them ARE evil, in my opinion. I live in the tobacco capital of the world too, so I'm surrounded by it in every form, heck Lorillard is about a 10 minute drive from where I'm sitting as I type this...if there were a place I'd like to see fire-bombed in the middle of the night, that's it (no, I'm not going to do it myself, but I won't shed one tear if it happens). If all of these companies went out of business tomorrow, I would be a happy man. Y'know the DECREASE in health care costs would more than make up for the lost income from these places going under, well, except for the salaries of the upper management, but THOSE death-dealers can go suck an egg.
And if anyone reading this smokes, PLEASE FOR CRIPES SAKE QUIT NOW!
Bottom line dude, we're here for you, you be THERE for your dad.
Just be there and be strong for him, don't waste time pointing fingers are laying blame. It's too late for that now anyway. We're here for you, so you be there for him. all the best to you both.
Mike, I feel your pain... I found out just about a year ago that my mother has mylodisplaycia.. a pre lukemic cancer... I remember feeling like a had an elephant sitting on my chest for a few day's afterwards. It is a verey painful thing. You and your pop's will be in my prayer's brother.
Peace
Peace
I've been there. I feel for you, I really do.
Don't let the events of this illness get inbetween you and your Dad. You both need each other now. Its a blessing that you have some time to get it right.
Whatever happens, keep in mind that love never dies.
Don't let the events of this illness get inbetween you and your Dad. You both need each other now. Its a blessing that you have some time to get it right.
Whatever happens, keep in mind that love never dies.
Gard said:
Yep. I woke up this morning as pissed off as I was when I went to bed. I wish that I lived closer to a cigarette factory because I would be there slashing tires of all those jerk-offs. I would just love to get a couple of those guys in a room alone.
Thank you to the well wishes and encouragement. I was hesitant about opening the thread, but now I am glad I did. Youn'z rock!
-Mike
Geez, Mike, I'm really sorry to hear about this. As others have said though, stick by your Dad and help him beat this thing. We're all here for ya, bro.
JoshB
A great man is always willing to be little. -RWE
My prayers are with you Mike...I lost my mom to cancer when I was 12 and was diagnosed with cancer myself when I was 16. I'm happy to say I am a cancer survivor myself.
Here's to hoping your dad will be able to say that as well. Keep your chin up and keep going.
Here's to hoping your dad will be able to say that as well. Keep your chin up and keep going.
Mike, I'm sorry about your father, but remember - It's not over - he can beat it.
I'm glad I quit smoking.
I'm glad I quit smoking.
I am so sorry, my friend.
Many years ago I lost my mother to cancer. She smoked her whole life, and didn't stop until it was too late. She fought back in vain with chemo, radiation, and an experimental antibody program.
Cigarettes are as addictive as heroin. I hear the same things from cigarette smokers that I have from addicts: "I can stop whenever I want to, I just don't want to". At least with heroin, the addict poisons himself alone. Most clubs I play, I'm poisoned by secondhand smoke.
Many years ago I lost my mother to cancer. She smoked her whole life, and didn't stop until it was too late. She fought back in vain with chemo, radiation, and an experimental antibody program.
Cigarettes are as addictive as heroin. I hear the same things from cigarette smokers that I have from addicts: "I can stop whenever I want to, I just don't want to". At least with heroin, the addict poisons himself alone. Most clubs I play, I'm poisoned by secondhand smoke.
Mike, my wife has had two separate battles with CA, one in 1990 and one in 2001 and she kicked the snot out of the disease both times (she just cleared her 5 year testing for the 2001 breast cancer 
) ..... she is a true survivor!
She beat the disease by good treatments, great doctors and an absolutely 100% positive attitude that she would win. And I totally supported her by maintaining an up attitude, even when she was bald and sick as a dog from the chemo. It's not easy, but you can help your dad by supporting his battle ......
Best of luck to your Dad, some good old fashioned Jersey prayers coming his way .........
) ..... she is a true survivor!She beat the disease by good treatments, great doctors and an absolutely 100% positive attitude that she would win. And I totally supported her by maintaining an up attitude, even when she was bald and sick as a dog from the chemo. It's not easy, but you can help your dad by supporting his battle ......
Best of luck to your Dad, some good old fashioned Jersey prayers coming his way .........
mj5150,
my mom had 2 bouts with cancer. the first one she announced on my 30th b-day. she had bone cancer in her jaw. her jaw was removed and replaced with a titanium one. it was a miracle she made it through the surgery. she was 70. 3 years later she was diagnosed with esophagus cancer which is what took her from me, my family and her 6 month old granddaughter, the first grand kid in the family, my brothers daughter.all of this as a result of a lifetime of smoking, and drinking. i wont say i know how you feel because i dont. each experience is different. i was devastated. i do understand your feelings though. my advice to you, if you are able, is to take all of your anger and throw it out. the stress that you and your family are about to go through will be a mountain and you dont need a 100lb pack on your back going up that mountain. i would suggest telling your dad every day how much that you love him and spend as much time as you can with him. i hope that he makes a full recovery. you and i are very similar in age, i'm 36 and our birthdays are very close. mine is on 8-1-69. if you need someone to vent to or just to talk with, email or pm me and i'll send you my number. i'll be honest with you about this, i'm an athiest so i cant give you any spiritual advice as to why this is happening or whatever. i just wanted to be up front about that.
my mom had 2 bouts with cancer. the first one she announced on my 30th b-day. she had bone cancer in her jaw. her jaw was removed and replaced with a titanium one. it was a miracle she made it through the surgery. she was 70. 3 years later she was diagnosed with esophagus cancer which is what took her from me, my family and her 6 month old granddaughter, the first grand kid in the family, my brothers daughter.all of this as a result of a lifetime of smoking, and drinking. i wont say i know how you feel because i dont. each experience is different. i was devastated. i do understand your feelings though. my advice to you, if you are able, is to take all of your anger and throw it out. the stress that you and your family are about to go through will be a mountain and you dont need a 100lb pack on your back going up that mountain. i would suggest telling your dad every day how much that you love him and spend as much time as you can with him. i hope that he makes a full recovery. you and i are very similar in age, i'm 36 and our birthdays are very close. mine is on 8-1-69. if you need someone to vent to or just to talk with, email or pm me and i'll send you my number. i'll be honest with you about this, i'm an athiest so i cant give you any spiritual advice as to why this is happening or whatever. i just wanted to be up front about that.
MJ5150 said:
+1000000
So sorry to hear, Mike. I went through the same thing with my mother; it's a hard blow to take.
Best of luck to you both.
Grug said:
As for the "choice" smokers make:
(Gard pulls out soapbox)
Society has in the past "glorified" smoking (they did product placement in movies during the 40's & 50's too, y'know!), leading the easily influenced to mimic the "cool" people they saw. This has been prevalent in our society, and in many others to an even greater extent, for the past century, at least. It still is, to a degree. Then some see their friends or parents doing it, think it's "cool" for that reason, and join in. Peer pressure, and the desire to be percieved as desirable are powerful forces in human nature
It is a known fact that the tobacco companies do everything they can to make their product as addictive as possible, through both additives and through selective breeding of tobacco crops. Once you are "hooked" you're THERE, you are a cash-cow for these dirtbags. As bad as it is in the US, it's WORSE in some 3rd world countries, people are bombarded with advertising touting how "cool" you are if you smoke Brand X or Brand Y or Brand Z....and let's not start on how much more garbage they can get away with putting in the cigarettes where they are far less regulated.
And no, I don't buy for a second any of the "informational advertising" that tobacco companies do in the US about how they try to stop teenage smoking. Horsehockey. They want to recruit new customers every day, like any other business. I know, because I'm in management of a business, and I do. However, what I sell doesn't KILL people (the tobacco companies can deny until the cows come home, the stuff KILLS)....well, not directly, if your wife or S/O bonks you over the head for buying one of my basses with the mortgage payment....
...sorry!!! 
(...steps off soapbox...)
Gard said:
Stay up there buddy. Just kind of stand sideways on it so there is room for me.
-Mike
I am sorry, I will pray for you and your father. My faher smokes, hes been smoking sicne he was 18 and now hes 40... I want him to stop but he says its too hard...
bassist 4 life said:
Tell your father that his dying before his time will be hard on you and the entire family...that might give him the necessary perpsective...or not...
...good luck.
Scott Zoltok said:
Not to come across as slamming you, but keep in mind that for many older folks (folks the age of my mom, and perhaps the age of Gard's mom and Mike's dad), the choice wasn't that cut and dried. Many cigarette advertisements in the past actually TOUTED the health benefits of smoking, usually taking some sort of "it's better than eating junk food" angle.
Check this sentence in the following article, at the end of the fourth paragraph: "Consumer Reports noted in 1938 that 'unbiased scientists have tried to determine the harmfulness of smoking and have tried, on the whole, in vain.'"
http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/reg20n3d.html
1938 would have been right about the time my mother began to smoke. I wonder if she read Consumer Reports.
