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Cancer 1....My pop 0

#62
Smoking is definitely a waste, I did it myself for a while, but honestly, this is absolutely uncalled-for:

Gard said:
if there were a place I'd like to see fire-bombed in the middle of the night, that's it (no, I'm not going to do it myself, but I won't shed one tear if it happens)
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Whatever happened to personal responsibility? My dad was born in 1952, and started smoking somewhere in his 20s. He quit 11 years ago. I know that some in the older generations (20s-50s) simply did not have the kind of information available that we have, but, at some point, people need to be able to take control of their own life and health and STOP going after the people who provide their addictions.
 
#63
Random Basser said:
Smoking is definitely a waste, I did it myself for a while, but honestly, this is absolutely uncalled-for:



Whatever happened to personal responsibility? My dad was born in 1952, and started smoking somewhere in his 20s. He quit 11 years ago. I know that some in the older generations (20s-50s) simply did not have the kind of information available that we have, but, at some point, people need to be able to take control of their own life and health and STOP going after the people who provide their addictions.
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Thaat's great...
 
#64
I'm with you Mike.

I'm getting choked up reading all this. I lost my dad five and a half years ago to cancer. He was a smoker much of his adult life...and a world-class athlete before that. Marlboros were his poison.

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He's the guy in front. It was strange to see him weak and having difficulty breathing. He had a successful operation in the nineties, lived fine for almost five years, and at some point starting up smoking again (in secret). The last year of his life was a rough one; I'm glad I got to spend some time with him and mend our relationship though.

All that said, I think your dad might be fine. My dad was at a very advanced stage. I'm hoping for you and yours.

Marshall
 
#65
MJ5150 said:
My dad has been hiding something from me. He went in for exploratory surgery today. The doctor was looking for cancer in his bladder. Yep, he found it. My dad called and told me. This is the second worst day of my life. There are more tests to be done to determine the course of treatment and how long my dad will live. :bawl:

If you are offended by people who get on soapboxes and preach about not smoking, leave now........Right now I am filled with anger, confusion, deep sadness, and other things. I hate the guy who invented cigarettes....I hate the people who make cigarettes.....I hate people who sell cigarettes....I hate the person who introduced my dad to cigarettes. I hate them all. I hate the fact that some stupid piece of paper with leaves in it is going to strike down and kill my father. I hate the fact that my dad has tried several times to quit, only to go back a month or so later.

For the love of God.....if you smoke.......

STOP

NOW

Don't turn into my dad. This is horrible. So many people love my dad, and now he is going to die at the hands of some stupid cigarette.

Thanks for reading. I'll be leaning on my TB buddies alot over the next few days and weeks. Sure I have my fleshly family, but you guys/gals are important to me too.

-Mike
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Mike I am really sorry. I lost both my grandfathers to cancer, and my grandmother lost a lung to cancer. I just lost a dear friend to cancer 2 days before christmas.

After reading your post I went out to my truck and threw away my last pack of ciggs. Luckily I just started smoking a month ago so it won't be hard for me to stop. But now that I think about it I don't even know why I started. I'm really sorry to hear about this man.... but also thanks for helping me out.
 
#66
AerospaceGuy said:
After reading your post I went out to my truck and threw away my last pack of ciggs.

...............but also thanks for helping me out.
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Way to go! Congratulations on your resolve, you can do it. Let's keep spreading this positive energy. Don't let those little paper sticks kill you........way to go!!! :hyper:

-Mike
 
#67
smperry said:
.....a world-class athlete before that. Marlboros were his poison.
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Hey Marshall. Man, thanks for the personal experience. That means alot to me that you can share it. I wasn't able to see the picture, but I have a good mental image.

My pop is not an athlete, but he is a big active man. I am so scared what this cancer will do to him. I am physically bigger than my pop today, but he will always be bigger than life to me.

-Mike
 
#68
Random Basser said:
people need to be able to take control of their own life and health and STOP going after the people who provide their addictions.
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For the record sir, my pop has not expressed any of the anger I have.

As for me.....heck yeah I am going to go after the people providing the addictions. What the freak should I do? Sit back while these people continue to sell products that are killing our loved ones to the tune of almost 400,000 per year? Heck no!

Read through the thread dude. Did you? It is full of others who have already lost multiple family members from smoking. I'm not going to sit back and wait for another thread like mine to pop up.

-Mike
 
#69
These products require consumers to buy them. They do not simply weed themselves into one's pocket. I did smoke for a year, and I dropped it. It is simply a matter of will power and ability to abandon harmful habits. I care enough about myself and those around me to kick a dumb habit that'd cause me and mine unnecessary pain.

I did read the thread, and I've told you that I know from my father's example it's easily possible to keep crap like this from happening. I can also tell you that I too lost my uncle 10 years ago to the cancer sticks.
 
#70
Random Basser said:
These products require consumers to buy them.
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Two sides to that. For people to buy them, they need someone to supply them. But heck, you win. I'm not really interested in debating with you about it. We'll chase our tails all night.

-Mike
 
#71
That sucks soo much, smoking isnt the only thing that causes cancer, but, it is there, im not a smoker and i hate going home from work or a night out smelling like an ashtray, thankfully they are banning smoking in public buildings over here! March 26th!
 
#72
Random Basser said:
These products require consumers to buy them. They do not simply weed themselves into one's pocket. I did smoke for a year, and I dropped it. It is simply a matter of will power and ability to abandon harmful habits. I care enough about myself and those around me to kick a dumb habit that'd cause me and mine unnecessary pain.

I did read the thread, and I've told you that I know from my father's example it's easily possible to keep crap like this from happening. I can also tell you that I too lost my uncle 10 years ago to the cancer sticks.
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Eh... I am going to just leave it at this: To be intelligent person best thing you can learn in your life is, sometimes its better to keep your mouth shut. Know when to express a point of view and when to keep it to you is a very important skill.
 
#73
Random Basser said:
These products require consumers to buy them. They do not simply weed themselves into one's pocket. I did smoke for a year, and I dropped it. It is simply a matter of will power and ability to abandon harmful habits. I care enough about myself and those around me to kick a dumb habit that'd cause me and mine unnecessary pain.

I did read the thread, and I've told you that I know from my father's example it's easily possible to keep crap like this from happening. I can also tell you that I too lost my uncle 10 years ago to the cancer sticks.
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If only it were that simple. For many, simply put it's not.

Good luck, Mike.
 
#75
Mike,

Sorry to hear about your Dad. You and your entire family will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Bladder cancer is a very survivable cancer, if they caught it in time, and he quits smoking.

My mother in law has been smoking for over 40 years. She has bladder cancer, has had an operation to remove the cancer, chemo, the cancer came back, and she had chemo again. Next step, if it comes back again, they remove her bladder.

SHE IS STILL SMOKING!!!:help:

The doctors have told her ever since the original diagnosis that if she does not stop, the cancer will come back.

All of you smokers out there, please hear what is being said in this thread.

STOP SMOKING NOW!!! YOUR FAMILY LOVES YOU AND NEEDS YOU!!!
 

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