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Can't find a decent 210

#22
JimmyM said:
What's Bill FM's favorite saying...low, light, cheap...pick any two.
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OriginalCrash said:
Except isn't it low, light, or loud? Like you can have low and light but it won't be loud... or low and loud but it won't be light...?
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My Carvin 210's (late 1990's) are a slight variant still:
light
cheap (esp. used)
loud
low*
the exception being the lows decrease after 100w, so by the time you're at about 350w, the lows are "flopping," even though the mids are still solid. So you can run two at 300w each with no "flop," but the lows have decreased too much by then, so you have to add low eq and pull back to about 200w each

And remember, the one 210 cab was advertised as doing 400w rms "full range" by itself? B-O-N-K! :rollno:

Anyone else actually test their 210's at 400w on a stage with little wall-reflection? So many reviews seem to miss this criteria. Just sayin'. :hiding:
 
#26
i stand by mesa some say its an acquired taste tho but i wouldn't run anything but at least one mesa 210 i think there awesome for recording but when my band did their demo i doubled up the bass line once with the 2x10 and once with the 1x15 and blended them for a couple songs cause it didnt sound low enough with the 2 10s
 
#28
Low, light weight and loud. That would be an Epifani UL210.
Plus, it loves as much power as you want to give it. Not the
smallest footprint for a 2x10 box, but at 38lbs, its easy to
haul around. It has a good amount of low end for a 2x10 box.
 
#30
I'm not sure but the saying should probably be small, low, or loud, since the weight of the cabinet has no real direct bearing on the volume or lowness (other than magnet weight, which is, with Neos, negligible in the weight of the cabinet).

The internal volume* is what you're looking at combined with the limits of porting, determining how low your cabinet can go and its sensitivity at various frequencies (sensitivity is also a factor of the speaker used of course, as you give up some sensitivity to get monster xmax, from what I've seen).

* Of course the internal volume will directly affect weight, so light is a factor :)
 
#31
tocs100 said:
Wow: five votes for Acme! :eek:

I can't tell from their site how they 3-way their 210 though. Is is 2 10's for bass, a small mid driver, and then a small tweeter?
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Correct, it is two 10" for bass (Custom Eminence with a longer voicecoil and extended xmax limit), a 5" for mids, and a soft dome tweeter (Audax model). You get adjustable attenuators on the back for both the mids and highs.

An Acme 2x10 is akin to a high end studio monitor combined with a subwoofer for lows all in the same box. Nothing like it on the market.
 
#37
Oh yeah, the 2x10 cab. I happen to own one of the better ones available (IMHO) and it has recently become apparent that they have limited use. OK, maybe home practice, living room jams, coffee shops and wine cellars. Beyond that I just ain't feelin' it. Probably getting grumpy in my old age. And...I wanna feel something slappin' at my backside when I play. :p:) On the other hand, where I live there are no subways to ride. ;)

M. M.
 

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