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Carvin B1500 club

#101
diechris said:
i dont see how that makes sense...


if i set them both at the same level and the gk is louder... how will the carvin have more head room?

I'm using my ears... i sure if i max both of them out the gk would be louder but instead of risking my speakers.. i set them at the same level and the gk was louder.. im sure the carvin was using more power but more power doesnt mean more volume.
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How are you deciding that they are "set at the same level"? Turning the volume up 1/3 of the way does not necessarily mean that you're getting 1/3 of the power or volume available, and putting the volume knobs in the same position on both amps does not mean you're using the same portion of the available output or power on each.

"Headroom" generally means that you can put out more power before the amp starts clipping or compressing--it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the position the volume/gain knobs are set at. At what settings does the GK start clipping, and at what settings does the Carvin start clipping?

Mike
 
#102
mikezimmerman said:
How are you deciding that they are "set at the same level"? Turning the volume up 1/3 of the way does not necessarily mean that you're getting 1/3 of the power or volume available, and putting the volume knobs in the same position on both amps does not mean you're using the same portion of the available output or power on each.

"Headroom" generally means that you can put out more power before the amp starts clipping or compressing--it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the position the volume/gain knobs are set at. At what settings does the GK start clipping, and at what settings does the Carvin start clipping?

Mike
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my wording is wrong then. i wanted more available volume... the carvin does have more available if i use a boost pedal.

here's the facts as of right now.

i can max out both of them. the gk will be louder. the carvin will be no where near the level needed to clip.. i could use a boost pedal to get tons more volume and still not clip the carvin...

so right now... running bass>carvin there is no way the carvin has more volume.

hope that makes sense...
 
#104
diechris said:
i can max out both of them. the gk will be louder. the carvin will be no where near the level needed to clip.. i could use a boost pedal to get tons more volume and still not clip the carvin...
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Gotcha. That's part of what I was asking--where you had the volume set on the Carvin and if you weren't able to just turn the volume control up higher.

If you're maxing the volume control out with the drive set at 12 o'clock and still not able to get enough volume, there may be something wrong with the amp. With my drive set at 1 o'clock (my preference for the tone) and EQ set more or less straight up, I get a ridiculous amount of volume with my passive 5-string through my 4-ohm Epi 2x12 before the volume control even gets to 12 o'clock.

Mike
 
#105
mikezimmerman said:
Gotcha. That's part of what I was asking--where you had the volume set on the Carvin and if you weren't able to just turn the volume control up higher.

If you're maxing the volume control out with the drive set at 12 o'clock and still not able to get enough volume, there may be something wrong with the amp. With my drive set at 1 o'clock (my preference for the tone) and EQ set more or less straight up, I get a ridiculous amount of volume with my passive 5-string through my 4-ohm Epi 2x12 before the volume control even gets to 12 o'clock.

Mike
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hmm i'll send carvin an email and see what they say..
 
#106
mikezimmerman said:
If you're maxing the volume control out with the drive set at 12 o'clock and still not able to get enough volume, there may be something wrong with the amp. With my drive set at 1 o'clock (my preference for the tone) and EQ set more or less straight up, I get a ridiculous amount of volume with my passive 5-string through my 4-ohm Epi 2x12 before the volume control even gets to 12 o'clock.

Mike
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I agree. I have the Drive set at 12 o'clock on my BX1200 head, and I'm not sure I've ever had to turn my Master Volume above 11 o'clock.
 
#107
mikezimmerman said:
Gotcha. That's part of what I was asking--where you had the volume set on the Carvin and if you weren't able to just turn the volume control up higher.

If you're maxing the volume control out with the drive set at 12 o'clock and still not able to get enough volume, there may be something wrong with the amp. With my drive set at 1 o'clock (my preference for the tone) and EQ set more or less straight up, I get a ridiculous amount of volume with my passive 5-string through my 4-ohm Epi 2x12 before the volume control even gets to 12 o'clock.

Mike
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sorry i re-read that and missed something.


I dont need to max the volume up. Im just saying that with the volume at the same setting on both amps.. my GK has more volume. It seems the input gain on the carvin needs to be cranked... but i guess there is no way to adjust input gain on it.
 
#108
diechris said:
I dont need to max the volume up. Im just saying that with the volume at the same setting on both amps.. my GK has more volume.
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Well then: take the knob off the B1500 and put it back on at a different angle!

Frankly the B1500 - as it should since it actually can produce more wattage - can swamp the GK and leave it bobbing like a piece of flotsam.
 
#110
diechris said:
sorry i re-read that and missed something.


I dont need to max the volume up. Im just saying that with the volume at the same setting on both amps.. my GK has more volume. It seems the input gain on the carvin needs to be cranked... but i guess there is no way to adjust input gain on it.
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So, if I get what you're saying, when the GK and the Carvin are the same loudness in decibels, the GK is turned up 1/4 of the way when the Carvin is 1/2 or so, right?

I've had a few amps in my day. I play pretty loud. My Carvin is at 9 o'clock and it's the same volume that I was able to achieve with my SWR SM-900 at 12 o'clock. It's the same volume that I was able to achieve with my SansAmp RBI driving a Carvin DCM-1500 at about 10:30.

If your GK is noticeably louder than the Carvin and has more volume knob adjustment to get even louder...then I think there may be something wrong with your Carvin.

My B1500 is a loud amp.
 
#111
diechris said:
i dont see how that makes sense...


if i set them both at the same level and the gk is louder... how will the carvin have more head room?

I'm using my ears... i sure if i max both of them out the gk would be louder but instead of risking my speakers.. i set them at the same level and the gk was louder.. im sure the carvin was using more power but more power doesnt mean more volume.
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Not all volume knobs have the same settings.

just because you have them both set at around noon means nothing.

Some amps max out on their power long before the knob is all the way up. Some amps, the other way around.

Your GK set at "noon" may already be maxed out or close to it, whereas your Carvin will still have more power to give as you turn up
 
#112
Bass_Pounder said:
Not all volume knobs have the same settings.

just because you have them both set at around noon means nothing.

Some amps max out on their power long before the knob is all the way up. Some amps, the other way around.

Your GK set at "noon" may already be maxed out or close to it, whereas your Carvin will still have more power to give as you turn up
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this might be true.. its the first ive heard of anything like that but it would make sense if thats what is happening.
 
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#119
Drive is set at 7-8 and volume is around 3 I run active basses so the signal is pretty hot both REBOPS and my Cirrus are 18volt pre amps plus I run bass,and treb full up on my basses i adjust the mids as well I am a weird one plus with the BBE on and lexicon running on chorus setting plus I just added a Sennheiser wirless. I prefer a little overdriven tone sort of like tool meets Eddie Jackson from queensryche but with a little more bottom :hyper::bassist:
 
#120
thanks bob!


UPDATE... ok so I dont know what it was but maybe my ears were shot from playing without earplugs in the practice space... but I did my first gig tonite with B1500 and it sounded great and loud! Had lots of compliments from other bassist about being able to be heard well in the mix and having a good tone.

Here are the settings i had...

ESP ltd f-104
x2wireless
Mojohands Creampie

B1500
sub bass: 3
bass: 5
low-mid: 6
mid: 6
high-mid: 6
high: 7
gain: 8
vol: 3
 

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