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Chris Henry died.

Chris Henry died..how was your day?

  • Full of needless bickering with no resolve.

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. I am saying that he had value as a human, and none of us is beyond improvement and redemption, spiritual or material.

Note - this is a general statement, not directed particularly at Chris Henry -

Some of just don't believe human life has a value just for existing... nor do we believe that no one is beyond improvement and redemption.

Some lives ARE worthless, and some people are beyond improvement and redemption.
 
Note - this is a general statement, not directed particularly at Chris Henry -

Some of just don't believe human life has a value just for existing... nor do we believe that no one is beyond improvement and redemption.

Some lives ARE worthless, and some people are beyond improvement and redemption.

Who gets to decide who is worthless? I have seen nothing in my life that leads me to believe that we can make those sorts of judgements fairly or consistently.:hmm:
 
I might like to see a "Can People turn their lives around?" new thread without any personal TB on TB attacks, but I don't think it would make it past page one.


That would be an interesting thread and one that can probably teach a lot. But the way the perfect/never made a mistake in life tb members behave around here it wouldn't stay open long :)
 
Note - this is a general statement, not directed particularly at Chris Henry -

Some of just don't believe human life has a value just for existing... nor do we believe that no one is beyond improvement and redemption.

Some lives ARE worthless, and some people are beyond improvement and redemption.

I don't see anyone as beyond redemption or "worthless", but in the same way you do sow what you reap. While you may be able to receive redemption you may still have to do with the consequences of your bad decisions.

In Chris Henry's case I feel sorry for his family especially his parents or parent who lost a child in that sense it is a tragedy. But no more so then tragedies that happen every day in Detroit.
 
That would be an interesting thread and one that can probably teach a lot. But the way the perfect/never made a mistake in life tb members behave around here it wouldn't stay open long :)
I think there's a substantial difference between the repeat offending violent felons in the world and people like me, whose rap sheet consists of nothing more than several traffic violations.
 
I think there's a substantial difference between the repeat offending violent felons in the world and people like me, whose rap sheet consists of nothing more than several traffic violations.

What about those who actuality commit felonies but do it for years before they are caught(if ever)?



Traffic violations does not make a person necessarily better than a person charged with a felony.

By law you're only a felon when you are charged as one.
 
What about those who actuality commit felonies but do it for years before they are caught(if ever)?



Traffic violations does not make a person necessarily better than a person charged with a felony.

By law you're only a felon when you are charged as one.

Against my better judgment I'm wading back into this thread, only because it has taken an interesting turn.

Obviously there's a difference between committing violent or despicable acts and being caught and/or punished for them. Sometimes people are wrongly imprisoned. And sometimes people are wrongly acquitted. OJ being found not guilty doesn't change my firm belief that he's a murderer. And as you point out, sometimes people commit heinous acts that they are never caught at all. I think everyone would agree that it is the act and not the consequences (or lack thereof) that matter.

I absolutely believe in rehabilitation. But I also don't believe in absolution. I think everyone has the ability, at any time in their lives to become a good person, regardless of what they did and who they were before. But I also believe that no matter how positive your life may become, it doesn't free you of prior bad acts.

For instance: A rapist that serves his time and goes on to change himself, give his life to helping others, and trying to make the world a better place may be commendable for many things, but he will ALWAYS be a rapist and there's nothing that will change that.
 
For instance: A rapist that serves his time and goes on to change himself, give his life to helping others, and trying to make the world a better place may be commendable for many things, but he will ALWAYS be a rapist and there's nothing that will change that.

If you once played bass and then decided to move onto some thing else in life and choose to never played bass again,Would that mean that you are forever a bassist?
 
If you once played bass and then decided to move onto some thing else in life and choose to never played bass again,Would that mean that you are forever a bassist?

Not to make it a matter of semantics, but yes - you will forever be someone that played bass. Everything you do in your life becomes a permanent part your life's history, even if you don't want to be that person any more. And while I applaud anyone that chooses to turn their life around, that does NOT erase the hurt they caused others in the past.

We get one life and we will all make mistakes, but however big or small every act and every decision are always a part of who you are.
 
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