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CITES - What every bass player should know
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Why can't you simply contact Samick and ask customer service what woods the bass was made from?
Hmm, we usually spend time in Nova Scotia in the summer, and I've flown into Halifax with, usually, a tenor uke. Never so much as had anyone look twice at it. Four summers ago was last time I think. Recent crackdown?
Hi everybody. Quick question, and I think I can guess the answer, but it's worth a shot: say I import a bass from the US to Canada and it comes with a CITES permit because rosewood; if I, in turn, were to sell the bass to somebody in the US before said permit expires, is that acceptable or would I need to apply to my own government for a whole new permit? Thanks!
Hi Jeff. Sorry about the slow reply, I'm on the road. I can't provide any detailed pics because the instrument is in Australia and I am in the US. About all I can provide is one pic that I have on my desktop at home, where I will be next week and which I will happily post then. Thanks!
TBer was wanting to trade his rosewood fret board,for my maple fret board. Problem is might have issues with his rosewood fret board,coming from outside of US? He has Ray34CA,with rosewood fret board,and wants to ship it to me in the US. Might need to see what type rosewood, Sterling by Music Man uses on their guitars? Any Help?
Bahahahaha! I am going to have A VERY long post about this CITES and Lacey Act, and possible solutions. Very tricky, very expensive and the end result will be much increased prices in the final product. There is, at this point in time, NO way around the issue, aside from filling out paperwork . I work for a company that does imports/ exports for hunting trophies which very much fall into the same categories. Anyway, I'll have a thread and a lengthy, informative, and probably upsetting solution for all luthiers, companies, and musicians crossing borders alike!You must be of the MTV generation.
Update: a few pages ago i posted this:
The 2018 Conference of the (CITES) Parties which will vote on this recommendation was originally scheduled to take place in Sri Lanka in May, but it was postponed after the awful terrorist attacks there. The Conference has now been rescheduled and will take place in Geneva beginning August 17, 2019. The CITES Secretariat has recommended that the proposed change, which includes the “finished musical instrument and finished musical instrument parts” exemption be adopted, despite its concern that there is “no agreed definition... for musical instruments.”
For those of you keeping score at home, the relevant proposal is CoP18 Prop. 52. Maybe some good news is on its way!
The 2018 Conference of the (CITES) Parties which will vote on this recommendation was originally scheduled to take place in Sri Lanka in May, but it was postponed after the awful terrorist attacks there. The Conference has now been rescheduled and will take place in Geneva beginning August 17, 2019. The CITES Secretariat has recommended that the proposed change, which includes the “finished musical instrument and finished musical instrument parts” exemption be adopted, despite its concern that there is “no agreed definition... for musical instruments.”
For those of you keeping score at home, the relevant proposal is CoP18 Prop. 52. Maybe some good news is on its way!
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I have been looking at the colors of various Rosewood variants and the closest to my fretboard in terms of color and grain seems to be East Indian Rosewood (Dalbergia latifolia) which is a CITES Appendix II timber (I think, it is not specifically listed) so assuming that Prop 52 passes on Friday I think I should be good to go.
Brazilian Rosewood is quite a lot darker to the point of being almost black.
I've seen Brazilian with streaks of deep red, purple, brown, orange... Heartwood can be much, much lighter.I have been looking at the colors of various Rosewood variants and the closest to my fretboard in terms of color and grain seems to be East Indian Rosewood (Dalbergia latifolia) which is a CITES Appendix II timber (I think, it is not specifically listed) so assuming that Prop 52 passes on Friday I think I should be good to go.
Brazilian Rosewood is quite a lot darker to the point of being almost black.
The good news is that anything made with Brazilian over the last 20 years or so would have come from a boutique builder, cost BIG bucks, and it would have been mentioned as a major selling point.
This particular Rosewood was given to me, and knowing the guy who gave it to me if it cost him anything he would have gouged me for it.That pretty much rules out Brazilian Rosewood.
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(sigh... apparently Invalid Link Removed does not wrap up until 28 August 2019...)
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I want to import a bass with ebony fingerboard från USA to Sweden. At least I think it is an ebony fingerboard. It is a Yamaha BB3000S.
How do I know that it is an ebony fingerboard, and most important, how do the customs know that it is an ebony fingerboard and not rosewood? Do I need som sort of paper/document that states the wood in the bass, body, neck and fingerboard?
Does anyone know the latin word for ebony wood?
Hope someone can help.
