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Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 16)

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He is comparing a fretted and fretless bass from different manufacturers, and attributing much of the tonal difference to the slight difference in board design:p

God help us. We need to have a sticky explaining partitioning of tonal variance and misattributions of causal effects.:D
Fair enough. You raise good points, except I don't think we need God's help on this. :)
 
He is comparing a fretted and fretless bass from different manufacturers, and attributing much of the tonal difference to the slight difference in board design:p

God help us. We need to have a sticky explaining partitioning of tonal variance and misattributions of causal effects.:D

Oh God here it comes haha....I wasn't trying to rehash the age old "I can hear the difference in tone between my plastic and aluminum pickguards!" :D....I just wanted to really see if I could actually tell a difference between these 2 similar basses of differing board cuts. My test was to just hold a 7th fret E on the A string on both basses, unplugged, to just hear the pure tone of the string on the wood. Both basses have the same set of TI flats on them and are constructed of the same alder/rosewood combo. The only difference is the AC board is older by about 25 years. I'm not saying the difference in tone is totally attributed to the thickness of the rosewood since obviously frets can make a big tonal difference, but vibration-wise I think it has to play a part and sure enough the tone was slightly thinner sounding on the thinner board which would kind of make sense I think....I don't know maybe I'm totally out of line here and this was a bad experiment haha
 
BTW Mitch is 75% bridge 80% neck. 50% tone. It kills some of the top end but more importantly neither pick up is over bearing like when you slightly back off of one pick up.

It's a new and interesting tonal combination.

actually Pete, it's more like 50/50 on the pickups or like 52% bridge and 48% neck and anywhere form 45%-55% back on the tone knob....it does kill some the zingyness but with these dead rounds it just starts to thump which I can't live without haha

of course thats just on the RA5....on my P-basses the tone knob goes a liiiittle farther back :D
 
Oh God here it comes haha....I wasn't trying to rehash the age old "I can hear the difference in tone between my plastic and aluminum pickguards!" :D....I just wanted to really see if I could actually tell a difference between these 2 similar basses of differing board cuts. My test was to just hold a 7th fret E on the A string on both basses, unplugged, to just hear the pure tone of the string on the wood. Both basses have the same set of TI flats on them and are constructed of the same alder/rosewood combo. The only difference is the AC board is older by about 25 years. I'm not saying the difference in tone is totally attributed to the thickness of the rosewood since obviously frets can make a big tonal difference, but vibration-wise I think it has to play a part and sure enough the tone was slightly thinner sounding on the thinner board which would kind of make sense I think....I don't know maybe I'm totally out of line here and this was a bad experiment haha

Just playin' with ya' all a bit:p
 
it IS complete;) but.... its planned release date is a bit off...soon, hopefully! we ended up filming close to 200gb of footage and Joe G filmed another 9 hrs on tape... we are going to start filming more stuff possibly this week! i think what we have planned will be really cool and informative!

Cool stuff, looking forward to the full feature.
 
Anyone interested in trading my RA5 for your LG5? If so shoot me a pm, I'm looking to try something new of Jimmy's but not in a hurry to let my RA5 go.
 

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No- we ended up bringing in Vashon... Jimmy recorded a bunch with him playing all the basses... I used what I had of you playing first, but It didn't fit the clip well and the audio was a bit off. That being said, the only audio I'm not totally happy with is jimmys... With all the compressors going, I now know to use a lapel mic! The next ones with be better I promise!
 
it IS complete;) but.... its planned release date is a bit off...soon, hopefully! we ended up filming close to 200gb of footage and Joe G filmed another 9 hrs on tape... we are going to start filming more stuff possibly this week! i think what we have planned will be really cool and informative!

Really nice! I especially like the part about 'each bass having a bit of personality'. That is one of the things I love about the A-C's.... they 'feel' handmade. There is, of course, a certain beauty to the absolute consistency and perfect execution of, for example, the Sadowsky build. But my LM just feels like a guy who loves to build instruments 'made it'.

Every time that the LM (and my previously owned LG that Joel has now, and seems to be digging) comes out of the case, all the wonderful Detroit J Bass masters that flow through my house regularly (most recently, TBer and great player Kerrycares) love it. The LM is almost always a huge hit. The most common comment is that it 'sounds like a good passive J even with the preamp engaged'. High praise IMO!

Virtually everyone says that same thing 'now THAT is a J Bass'!!!!

Sorry for the gush.... haven't done that in a while:p. Whether you dig the LG, the LM style, whatever, these are just magnificent instruments, and your little clip really conveys the old school, organic vibe of these basses.
 
Every time that the LM (and my previously owned LG that Joel has now, and seems to be digging) comes out of the case, all the wonderful Detroit J Bass masters that flow through my house regularly (most recently, TBer and great player Kerrycares) love it.

Ken

I am totally digging it. I'm a pretty tough customer and I absolutely love this bass. A really fun one to play.

I haven't gigged it yet but I do have a show this Saturday -- So I will finally get it out of the house and give it a whirl. I'll definitely report back.

JC
 
I know this was already posted, but I was checking out the clip of Marcus Miller at the A-C booth...I had forgotten how cool it is. I love how even at NAMM with all the background noise there you can clearly hear the tone of that LM5. And it really looks like he had a good time playing it - he didn't want to put it down!

YouTube - Marcus Miller at the Alleva Coppolo booth
 
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