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Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 21)

#282
http://most-expensive.com/bass-guitar

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#286
fivestringdan said:
I couldn't agree more. We're all insane and should be locked up in the Fodera Guitars factory!
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:D Again, as a former Fodera player and fan, just want to make sure readers understand I am NOT knocking them at all. Just making the point that there are many TBers who tend to assume their own price/value level is the same for everyone. The prices for any Fodera I would currently want is way beyond my price/value comfort level, just like the price of an Alleva-Coppolo or Sadowsky, or whatever is well beyond others' price/value comfort level. Useless discussion. A bass (or any other product) is worth what one is willing to pay for it... end of discussion:D

And also +1 that the super high end A-C's with rare boards, blocks and binding, nitro, etc. that actually start to get into that Fodera-level pricing, are, well, WAY out of my price/value comfort level! The base models.... ah, just right!
 
#287
Haha, I knew you weren't knocking the instruments! But I do think you were correct about the "out of our mind" description. :hiding:

Cost is irrelevant for me when it comes to instruments. I have a franken pbass that cost me $185. It absolutely slams and is as close as I have come to owning one of the VERY nice 1960 pbasses that I have played. (And I have played a lot of early 60's pbasses spanning 2 decades) I also have a $10,000+ Fodera. It is the finest example of a bass guitar I have every played. I consider them the same quality of tools that I use to make music. Both tools would work for any gig I play. I prefer to use the Pbass in my alt/country-rock band but I have played that gig with my Fodera. I use my Fodera for theater gigs and a jazz/funk band but also have used the pbass for the same gigs.

I agree that you and I discussing this is useless because we probably share a lot of the same ideas and principals concerning instruments. I've seen your gear reviews and really enjoyed the content. Hopefully people that still believe price=quality may catch on by reading this. Or better go out and play on everything you can get a hold of and make your own judgement.


KJung said:
:D Again, as a former Fodera player and fan, just want to make sure readers understand I am NOT knocking them at all. Just making the point that there are many TBers who tend to assume their own price/value level is the same for everyone. The prices for any Fodera I would currently want is way beyond my price/value comfort level, just like the price of an Alleva-Coppolo or Sadowsky, or whatever is well beyond others' price/value comfort level. Useless discussion. A bass (or any other product) is worth what one is willing to pay for it... end of discussion:D

And also +1 that the super high end A-C's with rare boards, blocks and binding, nitro, etc. that actually start to get into that Fodera-level pricing, are, well, WAY out of my price/value comfort level! The base models.... ah, just right!
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#288
fivestringdan said:
Haha, I knew you weren't knocking the instruments! But I do think you were correct about the "out of our mind" description. :hiding:

Cost is irrelevant for me when it comes to instruments. I have a franken pbass that cost me $185. It absolutely slams and is as close as I have come to owning one of the VERY nice 1960 pbasses that I have played. (And I have played a lot of early 60's pbasses spanning 2 decades) I also have a $10,000+ Fodera. It is the finest example of a bass guitar I have every played. I consider them the same quality of tools that I use to make music. Both tools would work for any gig I play. I prefer to use the Pbass in my alt/country-rock band but I have played that gig with my Fodera. I use my Fodera for theater gigs and a jazz/funk band but also have used the pbass for the same gigs.

I agree that you and I discussing this is useless because we probably share a lot of the same ideas and principals concerning instruments. I've seen your gear reviews and really enjoyed the content. Hopefully people that still believe price=quality may catch on by reading this. Or better go out and play on everything you can get a hold of and make your own judgement.
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+1 I definitely like the 'good stuff', but also realize that you need to 'pay a lot to go that last 10%', and that many don't see the need. Put another way, no one ever lost a gig due to using a Squire or whatever that I know of, and nobody has gotten a gig based on using the fancy stuff, as far as I know:)
 
#289
KJung said:
+1 I definitely like the 'good stuff', but also realize that you need to 'pay a lot to go that last 10%', and that many don't see the need. Put another way, no one ever lost a gig due to using a Squire or whatever that I know of, and nobody has gotten a gig based on using the fancy stuff, as far as I know:)
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#292
Jimmy AC actually made a Stacked knob J bass for bass virtuoso Bobby Vega..
Alot of care is put into the Pickup research and wiring..
I dont know of any other pickups that sound as close to the originals than these. But the woods that are picked for the AC also makes a difference.
Resonant old growth stuff..

I just ordered a new KBP4 with a wide "C" neck... All old growth Alder and DN fingerboard. And REV clockwise with a hipshot D-tuner of course..:D
My 4 strings need the D Tuners

bassdrop said:
I know it sounds strange but I've heard original stacked knob J's and noticed they have a particular sound. Then I heard an AC J clone, not sure of the model, and it sounded like a stacked knob. In comparison the CS Jaco Fender seems to have less of that stacked knob tone than the AC. The craziest part is I've never played any of those basses but somehow I could still hear them. It could have been the fact that I was using my ears, but very strange that I could hear the bass and yet not play it.
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#296
foderaman said:
It does,t have the active pre and is all Passive.Think the pickups are the same unless they are a special wind.The Res 4 CAR I have has special wire I was told by Jimmy and definitely has more of a Vintage Growl to it.I cant remember what he told me the wire was but he did say it was 1000 for a pound.You would need to contact him and he could tell you more.
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Awesome. That CAR with blocks and binding looks amazing. The idea of special pickups in these models is good to hear. At first I thought the only difference was all passive and a control plate. But special pickups makes sense. I notice on bass sandiego there is a resurrection with a preamp too.
 
#298
I didn't know the non-preamp versions came with a different pickup

in a way, it might make sense for them to have a slightly hotter wind for a little higher output. I don't know that this is the case....
 
#300
jonno1707 said:
I'd love to hear all about these special pickups who can give us the real deal?
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Im not sure about Jimmy having a separate Pickup for the Resurrection basses all I know is that on my CAR Res I talked to Jimmy before getting it and he told me the pickups where wound with a special wire and it is very expensive like 1000 dollars a pound.I would think you would need to take to him to see if this is something he does but only on Resurrection basses?My Res is a exact copy of Larry Grahams 66 Jazz which is written on the neck cavity on the body,it also says built for Bass Player Live 2011,Resurrection 4 Capped board,Celluid Blocks by Jimmy Coppolo ,nitro cellulose laquer changed to Acrylic Urethane All of this is written by hand by Jimmy on the body
 

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