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Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 21)

#261
joeyl said:
that's pretty hot.

I also notice the old type Hipshot "claw" bridge, which I love, and that Hipshot stopped making....That's a Hipshot bridge right? Or does Jimmy do his own hardware also?
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That is HipShot, but Jimmy's "bent plate" (an upcharge/upgrade) is his own.
 
#263
Back when I got mine, the HipShot "B" was standard. I really like that bridge.

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#266
Vic said:
Back when I got mine, the HipShot "B" was standard. I really like that bridge.
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I have the B-type and also Jimmy's vintage bent plate type (much lower mass). I received my LM with the vintage one, and later bought the B type to try out. I really liked the lower mass bridge sound better. But... I really believe that this preference is on a build by build basis. At 10.5 lbs, my (ash/maple) LM does not need any boost in the bass, and the lower mass bridge is a better sonic compliment to this particular build IMO. I would imagine the stock HS Vintage (also being lower mass and chrome over brass) would yield similar results to Jimmy's...and it looks nicer IMO).
 
#267
bassdrop said:
I, for one, have never played an Alleva-Coppolo and have only heard YouTube clips like the one that used to be up with Jamiroquai's Paul Turner. What I heard sounded like an early 60's stack knob J, and I've never heard even the Fender CS instruments get that close to that old tone. If the feel matches the tone, and many here suggest they do, I can only imagine that these are, for the most part, very special instruments. What I posted in the original thread, and I stand behind it, is Addison should have called Jimmy and spoken to him. It seems like Jimmy may have responded better to this type of communication and I still believe that an honest phone conversation may have avoided this whole public scene and facilitated a suitable resolution. Personally, I would have at least given Jimmy the chance to take the instrument back and try to repair the issues, but then again, if it were me, I also would have ordered an instrument to my specs and waited at that price point. In the end I wish the best for both of them since I'd rather see Jimmy continue to make great basses and obviously Addison deserves to get a bad ass custom bass from somewhere that can fit the bill for him.
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So you can tell the difference of a 60's stack knob j from other j's based on the sound you hear from youtube recordings??? If there was just the sound and no image you could still tell a fender custom shop j from alleva's 60's spec j? Some magic ears there you got sir! ;)

I'm sorry but really you have actually PLAY a bass to know what it's like.
 
#268
KJung said:
Yes, you have a different view of this, always have. Play what you want. No problem. For the life of me, I never can figure out why you bother with the A-C threads, since these basses obviously don't do it for you.

+1 that if you spend a lot of time like you do to 'exactly copy' a specific year of Fender pickup wind, etc., you are better off with the real thing. If you are not quite that literal, and enjoy a bass that, for me, totally suggests an older, all hand made instrument, with a VERY good legitimate J sound and feel (especially in a 5 string configuration) that is the 'least active' sounding (i.e., buffered and not much else) as you can get in a new active instrument, and a 5 string neck profile that has that very 'round curve' on the fretboard that brings to mind a very different feel and playing experience than 'modern' high radius or compound radius neck, these basses feel VERY different to me (and many others in many GTG's) than the typical 'new J bass'.
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because its talk bass;) same reason i still post in the fodera threads! ive got lots of experience with them. if i still posted like i used to commenting on build issues maybe it would have saved addison some grief:hiding:
 
#269
mothra2 said:
I have the B-type and also Jimmy's vintage bent plate type (much lower mass). I received my LM with the vintage one, and later bought the B type to try out. I really liked the lower mass bridge sound better. But... I really believe that this preference is on a build by build basis. At 10.5 lbs, my (ash/maple) LM does not need any boost in the bass, and the lower mass bridge is a better sonic compliment to this particular build IMO. I would imagine the stock HS Vintage (also being lower mass and chrome over brass) would yield similar results to Jimmy's...and it looks nicer IMO).
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really like the B. the light one sounds like a standard fender bridge to me but with the benefit of the saddles not rattling around.
 
#272
Vic said:
At least at one point, part of Jimmy's dedication to replicating a genre/period J experience included using woods old enough they compared to the age of woods that could've been used in actual basses of fairly comparable vintage-ness to the experience he was trying to replicate (hopefully this makes sense... kinda' hard to write). For example, when my bass was built, I believe my body blank was made from a piece of Alder he felt was around 30 years old, and the Indian Rosewood used for my board was even much older than that.

All I know is, I've played some 60's J's, and at least to me (FWIW), there's definitely the same "vibe" in my LG.
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+1 It's a hard thing to describe, this "feeling old" but I'm totally there. My LG5 punches and resonates in such a way that I can only attribute to the wood. It's like when you really dig into the bass, and instead of farting out, she says "give me more!" My Lakland punches and resonates totally throughout the entire body, but it's in a faster, more immediate way.
 
#273
MKA said:
So you can tell the difference of a 60's stack knob j from other j's based on the sound you hear from youtube recordings??? If there was just the sound and no image you could still tell a fender custom shop j from alleva's 60's spec j? Some magic ears there you got sir! ;)

I'm sorry but really you have actually PLAY a bass to know what it's like.
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I know it sounds strange but I've heard original stacked knob J's and noticed they have a particular sound. Then I heard an AC J clone, not sure of the model, and it sounded like a stacked knob. In comparison the CS Jaco Fender seems to have less of that stacked knob tone than the AC. The craziest part is I've never played any of those basses but somehow I could still hear them. It could have been the fact that I was using my ears, but very strange that I could hear the bass and yet not play it.
 
#274
Ken -- Not to derail here, but there are plenty of Fodera options for nowhere near $10,000.

Jason

KJung said:
I think anyone who would spend $10,000 on a Fodera is literally out of their mind, just like there are many who feel that me spending $3,500 on an A-C 5 string is 'stupid':D Price/value is a personal thing that really can't be generalized IMO.
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#279
rictrose said:
Anyone know what the difference is between the "Resurrection" pups and standards?
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It does,t have the active pre and is all Passive.Think the pickups are the same unless they are a special wind.The Res 4 CAR I have has special wire I was told by Jimmy and definitely has more of a Vintage Growl to it.I cant remember what he told me the wire was but he did say it was 1000 for a pound.You would need to contact him and he could tell you more.
 
#280
Just Thumpin' said:
Ken -- Not to derail here, but there are plenty of Fodera options for nowhere near $10,000.

Jason
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:D Jason, just using you guys as an example of guys spending a LOT of money on a bass that many would think is crazy, just like with Sadowsky basses, A-C's or whatever. Price/value is a very 'irrational' thing that cannot be generalized. And, I would guess 90% of the basses I see photo's of in your thread are pretty close to that $10,000 mark at this point:D Of course, you guys have all the orders you can make, just like Jimmy and Roger!
 

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