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Club Alleva Coppolo (part 3)

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I have a LM-5 Ash/Rosewood.

(1) I usually use the bass in active mode with
both pickups up and the PTC about 50-75%. Treble
and bass about 10-20%.

(2) If I roll off the neck p/u I will add a little bass.

(3) If I slap (I don't slap a lot) I'll have both pickups up,
the PTC up, Treble about 40% and bass about 30/40%.

I used to be a knob tweeker... I don't do that much anymore.:cool:
Dan
 
(1) I usually use the bass in active mode with
both pickups up and the PTC about 50-75%. Treble
and bass about 10-20%.

(2) If I roll off the neck p/u I will add a little bass.

(3) If I slap (I don't slap a lot) I'll have both pickups up,
the PTC up, Treble about 40% and bass about 30/40%.

I used to be a knob tweeker... I don't do that much anymore.:cool:
Dan


3 VERY usable settings. Depending on what style/group I'm performing with at the time, I find these, or similar, settings to work well for Naw'lins/Chicago Blues, Jazz/Jazz-Rock Fusion, and Neo-Soul gigs. I love having a bass that has a versatile preamp which stays within the usable realm, even if I choose to gun it 100%, or roll it off completely and go au naturale.
 
Yeah that one is out of the bag..:)
Though the others I have sworn an oath, and i live by that creed... Someday maybe 75 years from now when all witnesses have passed on, that cat may be allowed out.. How many more years will it be until the Kennedy assassination files will be un-sealed?.:) mmmmmm
I think congress sealed them for 75 years back in the 60s. So Jimmy may spill the beans around 2081 AD.. . But then I cant speak for him.. LOL


I'm pretty sure that I've figured out what KBP stands for....or was that cat already out of the bag. I haven't been following the whole conversation.

As to the tone controls, when I had an LM5, I prefered to use the boosts sparingly. Most often, I set everything flat and shaped a tiny bit from there. The bass delivered on pretty much any (non-extreme) setting.
 
Some gigging and informal recording with my creamy new LG-5. Basically, I think it's got the frequency distribution I've been wanting: low notes are clear, have plenty of bottom but not boomy, D and G strings still pretty full...popping and slapping: ahh! Exactly right. Now all that I need is to learn how to play it effectively. I must say I think having the right tonal balance is helping my groove, based on some tracks I laid down yesterday. Interesting: I'm hearing more string rattling and clanking than I'd expected. Maybe I need to raise the strings a touch? Or rather I think it's a function of my needing to learn to touch the strings appropriately with the greater amount of, what would I call it? lower high-frequency information available on this bass. It seems that the "rattle" frequencies are maybe the same or close to the ones that provide that J-style definitiion and -- words fail me -- not sizzle (this isn't Marcus-style high end), but...Ken, help me out: what do you call the high-end aspect of the "60's J" sound?


-Steve
 
I treated myself to an In N' Out double-double combo last night to end my Labor Day weekend. Now it's back to a healthier diet. But what a perfect way to go out. I don't know what their secret is, but those burgers and fries are just so damn fresh and satisfying! And cheap! Double Cheese burger, Fries and a shake for about $6 and change? Mmmm.

And yeah, I thought about Jimmy when I was there.
 
Some gigging and informal recording with my creamy new LG-5. Basically, I think it's got the frequency distribution I've been wanting: low notes are clear, have plenty of bottom but not boomy, D and G strings still pretty full...popping and slapping: ahh! Exactly right. Now all that I need is to learn how to play it effectively. I must say I think having the right tonal balance is helping my groove, based on some tracks I laid down yesterday. Interesting: I'm hearing more string rattling and clanking than I'd expected. Maybe I need to raise the strings a touch? Or rather I think it's a function of my needing to learn to touch the strings appropriately with the greater amount of, what would I call it? lower high-frequency information available on this bass. It seems that the "rattle" frequencies are maybe the same or close to the ones that provide that J-style definitiion and -- words fail me -- not sizzle (this isn't Marcus-style high end), but...Ken, help me out: what do you call the high-end aspect of the "60's J" sound?


-Steve

I know what you are talking about. I found that I had to add just a touch of relief to my LG5 with the truss rod. I think I moved the nut maybe 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch...MAYBE! It did not take much at all and it is perfect now. I don't like ANY noise at all when I play and I detest the clanky sound that you get with the action too low. Even with the little bit of relief I have I consider the action to be pretty low on my Alleva. Interestingly enough I did not have to touch my 3TS Standard 4 when I got it until a few days later. I attribute that to the change in the climate. It was very wet and rainy here and dry in NYC. I think if you go from one type of environment to the other you will usually have to make at least a small adjustment to the neck. Good luck!

Peace,

T
 
Some gigging and informal recording with my creamy new LG-5. Basically, I think it's got the frequency distribution I've been wanting: low notes are clear, have plenty of bottom but not boomy, D and G strings still pretty full...popping and slapping: ahh! Exactly right. Now all that I need is to learn how to play it effectively. I must say I think having the right tonal balance is helping my groove, based on some tracks I laid down yesterday. Interesting: I'm hearing more string rattling and clanking than I'd expected. Maybe I need to raise the strings a touch? Or rather I think it's a function of my needing to learn to touch the strings appropriately with the greater amount of, what would I call it? lower high-frequency information available on this bass. It seems that the "rattle" frequencies are maybe the same or close to the ones that provide that J-style definitiion and -- words fail me -- not sizzle (this isn't Marcus-style high end), but...Ken, help me out: what do you call the high-end aspect of the "60's J" sound?


-Steve


Hey Steve,

+1 to TOMMIX's post. It sounds like you need to slightly loosen the truss rod (i.e., turn it counter clockwise just a very small amount... probably an 1/8th of a turn or less).

The neck probably moved a slight bit going from one location to the next, or your playing style might be a little more aggressive than the 'average' that Jimmy probably uses to set string height, etc.

If a very small loosening of the truss rod doesn't do it, then you should probably have the bass professionally set up. You might actually need the truss rod tightened a small amount, and the strings raised just a hair at the bridge. Hard to tell without seeing it.

However, every bone in my body tells me that a very, very slight loosening of the rod will take care of the 'buzzing' you are hearing.
 
I know what you are talking about. I found that I had to add just a touch of relief to my LG5 with the truss rod. I think I moved the nut maybe 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch...MAYBE! It did not take much at all and it is perfect now. I don't like ANY noise at all when I play and I detest the clanky sound that you get with the action too low. Even with the little bit of relief I have I consider the action to be pretty low on my Alleva. Interestingly enough I did not have to touch my 3TS Standard 4 when I got it until a few days later. I attribute that to the change in the climate. It was very wet and rainy here and dry in NYC. I think if you go from one type of environment to the other you will usually have to make at least a small adjustment to the neck. Good luck!

Peace,

T

Thanks, Tommix and Ken. I'll give the truss rod a twist when I get home this evening. The bass certainly did do the dry-to-wet climate thing, traveling from sunny San Bernardino to North Carolina's Hurricane-Fay-enhanced weather...not to mention the stresses and strains of UPS.

This may well end up being the instrument I spend the rest of my life with. I called a female friend last night and when I mentioned I'd been practicing she replied, a little ruefully I thought, "Oh, you mean you've been making love to your new bass."

-Steve
 
I wanted to share a pic of my "Tres Allevas" at work on sunday.
My LG5 and KBP5 got the call . The kbp4 was there for the ride just in case i wanted a 4.
For now i swapped the necks on the Kbp5 to the LG5... I like that combination...


tres-allevas.jpg
 
I predict. .... There will be another AC in your future at some point Mike. :hiding: How far off base am I? Or should I say; how far off "bass" am I? :D

ya know what?!?!??
I don't think I will. (if I had nutty coin laying around I would)
At this point I'm not really doing anything that my old Jazz just doesn't slam on, and if I need a 5 I have that old beat Yamaha BB5000 (which is getting a Sadowsky pre-amp this week and new pick-ups soon as well:D) and my Valenti 5.
That stupid Yamaha actually plays crazy good. And sounds real nice too.

If I could get a 4 string at a stupid low price used< i may think about it.

Plus, my custom shop G&L L2000 is just sick sounding.
Not the same as a AC, but still cool.
 
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