So, it sounds like I need to make a phone call. What does Jimmy require for a deposit? And being a web designer I wonder if there is a discount in it for me
I think he requires about a third deposit.
Dan
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I think he requires about a third deposit.
Dan
I was thinking about selling (or trading) my LM-5 to get a
LG-5. But, after an A/B today with the RA-5. I'm not sure I want to trade it. I REALLY got me some Alleva-Coppolo GAS!!
I need (want) a KBP5 too!!
Dan
Has anyone been to the Alleva Coppolo website lately, when you get to the media page and try to select pricing & options, or colors, nothing seems to happen. Anyone else experiencing this? I've tried a couple of browsers same issue. Maybe God's trying to tell me something.
Keep my money.......
Sorry about the site everyone. It's still under new construction and the web guy is busy with my site and quite a few others. There will be more info up real soon.
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+1 Simply amazing basses. You know me... here's my guess as to why (and I'm sure many will disagree... pure opinion here).The LM5, based on the 70's era J's, are really not purchased for 'vintage mojo', etc., but rather by people who love that more aggressive 70's J tone (i.e., purchased purely for tonal reasons). So, while I love mine to death, and rarely play anything else out on a gig, it doesn't have that 'vintage mojo' like my Nitro LG (just like many of us feel that 70's era Fenders are more just 'old basses' versus 'vintage' or particularly special (i.e., the true, pre CBS Fender basses).
The LG model appeal seems a lot more emotional, especially the ones you constantly see for sale with the Nitro and fancy boards. There are constant posts about how old the Rosewood boards are, who is spraying the Nitro, etc., etc. You don't see a lot of passion regarding how old the maple boards are on the LM's, or what type of maple it is! The LG's are truly unique to the boutique J market IMO in that they really do cop that vintage sort of pre CBS or close after CBS vibe that many feel defines the term 'vintage' in the bass market. I believe a lot of guys 'think' they want that from hearing all the pre CBS hype over the years, and some possibly find out that's not the case once they get them on the gig (i.e., the more fat, mellow vibe of the tone).
Just guessing here. My LG isn't going anywhere, but it also rarely leaves the house compared to my LM!
Soo.. does anyone want to sell/trade an LM5 any time soon? 
Kinda joking kinda serious. I MAY be willing to part with my MTD 535 for one, but who knows 
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Can the LM5's cover the modern sound a bit? I'm sure it won't come near what the MTD does in terms of modern, but yea just wondering how close it can get to what some consider a very modern sounding bass. Or would I get the effect of an LM5 by turning up the Treble on my LG5 a bit and have the PTC wide open, and maybe emphasing the bridge p-up a bit?
Kinda joking kinda serious. I MAY be willing to part with my MTD 535 for one, but who knows .Can the LM5's cover the modern sound a bit? I'm sure it won't come near what the MTD does in terms of modern, but yea just wondering how close it can get to what some consider a very modern sounding bass. Or would I get the effect of an LM5 by turning up the Treble on my LG5 a bit and have the PTC wide open, and maybe emphasing the bridge p-up a bit?
Soo.. does anyone want to sell/trade an LM5 any time soon?
Can the LM5's cover the modern sound a bit? I'm sure it won't come near what the MTD does in terms of modern, but yea just wondering how close it can get to what some consider a very modern sounding bass. Or would I get the effect of an LM5 by turning up the Treble on my LG5 a bit and have the PTC wide open, and maybe emphasing the bridge p-up a bit?
IMO and IME the LM5's sound very much like a late 70's passive Fender bass to most of us (it's amazing to see the smile come to the faces of the 70's J guys here in Detroit when they try the LM5!). If you like that tone, you will love the LM5 IMO. One of the things many of us love about the LM5 is that the preamp is quite subtle, and even at relatively high bass or treble boost settings (which I never use), the bass continues to keep it's ' true 70s J' vibe.
And no, turning up the treble on an LG has very little to do with the aggressive tone the ash/maple combo gives you in the upper mids/lower treble IMO. Actually, the preamp on the LG is 'less interesting' to me than on the LM. The LG (for the most part) is all about vintage, passive tone to my ear (I'm considering rewiring the push/pull active/passive control to 'default passive'). The LM with the preamp is more in the spirit of the late 70's 'funk machines' that many of us used back in the day, and many of us installed preamps in those era of basses. Not many did that with the pre/slightly post CBS Fenders that I am aware of.
I gigged for years with an MTD, and they are fine basses, but very, very, very different from the 70's Fender vibe (as you know). If you want a more modern sounding bass that is a bit more punchy than the MTD (i.e., not quite so widely voiced) and still looks and feels like a J Bass, I'd recommend looking at the Sadowsky or Nordy basses.
+1
Different frequency ranges.
Not for me it's not...
True, its passive tone was designed first (originally I think the preamp was optional?), BUT, man, you kick in that preamp to spice up the sound and it just works so well. I find it not only interesting, but very very pleasing.
IME anyhoo.
+1
Different frequency ranges.
Not for me it's not...
True, its passive tone was designed first (originally I think the preamp was optional?), BUT, man, you kick in that preamp to spice up the sound and it just works so well. I find it not only interesting, but very very pleasing.
IME anyhoo.
+1 It surely doesn't sound bad at all, but I was making a more general point. It's not that it doesn't sound great, but more that it's not as much what the LG's are about, especially the ones with the Nitro finish, bent plate bridges, etc., that are really designed to cop that true 60's vibe, which is passive all the way IMO.
I also think the reason you see more LG's for sale is that, like the post previous to yours, some think that 'well, it has a preamp, so I can kind of get that LM sort of tone anyway'. Not
I'm glad my LG has that wonderful pre, I just prefer the tone passive for that particular design and voicing and woods, etc.. Now, if I didn't have the LM for that more aggressive tone, the active tone of the LG would be more 'interesting' to me (i.e., if I only had the LG). As it stands, the active tone of the LM and the passive tone of the LG have all bases (basses!) covered regarding my 'Fender-type tone jones'.
Pure IMO on my part, and in the spirit of discussing the possible reason for the post that suggests you rarely see an LM for sale versus an LG. Of course, part of that could just be that Jimmy sells a bunch more LG's than LM's (which would not surprise me, given again the 'vintage' appeal and truly unique vibe of the LG's in Jimmy's line-up IMO).
Hmm.. the preamp in the LM5 is different from the LG5?? I had no idea. I just assumed they were the same and the tonal differences were just attributed to the Ash/Maple + the 70's spacing of the Alleva pickups.
Haha honestly, I'm sure everyone feels the same way about this, but if i had it my way, I would have one of every bass I want; and yes that for sure includes an NYC sado. Got a chance to try an Ash/Maple NYC 4 string sado and it was amazingly agressive and much on the modern side. BUT, I really think I'd also love the LM5 as well, as I really do love the tone of the LG5, and would want something to complement, much like your set of Alleva's haha.
The preamps and pickups are identical. I didn't mean to imply there weren't, and not sure where you picked that up from my post. Sorry for the confusion. IMO, it's primarily the maple board, and secondarily the ash body and pickup placement that makes the LM sound so different from the LG. They sound different from each other unplugged, in passive mode, and in active mode.
My point on the preamp is that it is quite common to see someone hot-rod a 70's Fender with an after market preamp (Marcus Miller of course comes to mind). It's a little more unusual to see someone do that with a 1964 J Bass, since the 'on steroids' sort of thing really isn't what those basses and voicing are about, versus the more aggressive grind of the later ash/maple models. Again, just noodling this relatively minor point and pure IMO.
The main point is not to think cranking the preamp in the LG will somehow mimic even the more aggressive passive tone of the LM, much less the active LM tone.
Oh okay, yea I got confused because you said
It'd be nice if there was a TBer local to me who had an LM5 I could A/B with, or hopefully Jimmy will have one at the shop when I go to drop off my LG to get a setup in 3 weeks or so.
, but I just probably took it out of context of what you meant.
It'd be nice if there was a TBer local to me who had an LM5 I could A/B with, or hopefully Jimmy will have one at the shop when I go to drop off my LG to get a setup in 3 weeks or so.
Per the discussion above, I just had to post this pic in this newer thread. Those of you who own a nitro finished LG know what I'm talking about. The bass in general, and the finish in particular on the body and neck, just seems so organic and OLD. Amazing. My finish is 'shrinking into the body' a little bit, as Nitro does from what I've been told (I'm surely no expert on that), and it just feels like this bass is 40+ years old. Simply amazing... it just kind of glows!
I'm going to let the DR Lo Rider Nickels wear in a bit more, and then I'll put up another clip. Just like I'm growing to dig the passive tone with this bass more and more, the Nickels similarly fit the vibe and voicing of this bass much better than my beloved Hi Beams SS strings (which ROCK the LM). That more upper mid lower treble voicing of the nickels works much better with the more mellow top end of the alder/RW to my ear... more growl than 'ping'.
I'm going to let the DR Lo Rider Nickels wear in a bit more, and then I'll put up another clip. Just like I'm growing to dig the passive tone with this bass more and more, the Nickels similarly fit the vibe and voicing of this bass much better than my beloved Hi Beams SS strings (which ROCK the LM). That more upper mid lower treble voicing of the nickels works much better with the more mellow top end of the alder/RW to my ear... more growl than 'ping'.
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Pics coming soon but I wanted to let you know that the bass is killin'! Jimmy delivered the bass to me personally yesterday during my soundcheck and even adjusted the intonation for me as I tune my basses a half step down.
The rest of the band members and the sound guy RAVED about the sound of the bass and there were even some audience members who comes to the shows every month and noticed the difference in sound between the LM5 and the MM Stingray. The Stingray is still a great bass but the LM5 is KING. I FINALLY found a bass that gives me the sound I want in the mix AND at home. The venue I played last night was a great test because the room is HORRIBLE and a bass trap. I'm constantly being told to turn down because the bass gets muddy in there quick. Even with those obstacles EVERYONE was still very happy with the LM5. It's a keeper and my main gigging bass now.
The rest of the band members and the sound guy RAVED about the sound of the bass and there were even some audience members who comes to the shows every month and noticed the difference in sound between the LM5 and the MM Stingray. The Stingray is still a great bass but the LM5 is KING. I FINALLY found a bass that gives me the sound I want in the mix AND at home. The venue I played last night was a great test because the room is HORRIBLE and a bass trap. I'm constantly being told to turn down because the bass gets muddy in there quick. Even with those obstacles EVERYONE was still very happy with the LM5. It's a keeper and my main gigging bass now.
Man you guys make me want to order an LM. Maybe if I get it the same color as my LG, my wife won't notice!
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