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Club Alleva Coppolo (Part 9)

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Good to see you back posting here again :)
 
Loews and Home Depot have these screw drivers. they are called "Offset Screwdriver". I got the one from Loews simply because it has a larger "wider" flat blade head.. Sears also has them in most stores..
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Have a quick question..
My bass didn't come with setup tools..can u guys give me specific sizes of Allen wrench for bridge and I'm assuming a large flat head screwdriver (with PG off) to adjust neck..correct..?

I've got two more concerts today (sat) and I was gonna just take it in for a Quick setup
but $60 setup at California vintage guitars is CRAZY..!
Nothing huge..just string unbalance and a slight ..I mean slight bow..

Thanks for the help in advance!
Mike X
 
Loews and Home Depot have these screw drivers. they are called "Offset Screwdriver". I got the one from Loews simply because it has a larger "wider" flat blade head.. Sears also has them in most stores..
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That's what I use on mine, tho as Ken says, I rarely have to touch it.
 
yeah . Ken is right.. and i found with my basses, they hardly ever need a tweak... maybe on hard or abrupt weather change. but other wise. every few months.. and then it only takes tops about an 1/8 turn...
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That's what I use on mine, tho as Ken says, I rarely have to touch it.
 
Hey bass7755,


Being new to the family, can u tell me more about the RA..
I heard it was a 70s but more extreme..is this correct?
I would love to get a 70s vibe covered with an AC..
I would love to have a more aggresive sound..when needed..
Does your RA get pretty aggressive?

Thanks
Mike

Hello Mike,

I'll chime in, since I have an LM, an LG (Nitro/Indian RW) and an RA.

The LM, to my ear, is pretty much in the classic late 70's tonal universe, especially in passive mode of course, but even in active mode... big down low, and that aggressive grind in the upper mids and lower treble. If you are looking for a pretty good take on a 70's J in a relatively lightweight 5 string J, the LM is the way to go.

As you know, the LG is similarly very nicely placed in the mid 60's J sort of tonal universe... a bit warmer, more punchy and growly than the LM when favoring the neck pickup, etc.

My RA is quite a different thing.... more sizzly and wide than grindy. I don't know if it is the alder body or the gloss finish on the maple board combined with the 70's pickup position. Mine doesn't immediately bring to mind what many would think of as a 'classic Fender tone' IMO, but it sounds great. As many have posted, the RA almost feels like it was made for nickel roundwounds, and I've grown to like mine quite a bit with the Lo Rider Nickels installed.

However, if you are really looking for that '70's funk' sort of tone in a 5 string, and like the look and feel of A-C's, the LM is totally the way to go IMO and IME.

If you search the previous thread, I have clips of each of the three models that seem pretty accurate to my ear in communicating how they sound (at least with relatively new roundwound strings through a relatively transparent and full range rig.
 
I'll save you the search time, since the clips are spread all over the previous A-C thread.

Here's a pretty good representation (IMO) of the RA tone, although this clip has DR Hi Beams, so its a bit more sizzly than its voicing now with Lo Rider Nickels. Close enough though to communicate that very crystal clear upper treble response and an 'alder unique' round low end.

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For comparison, the first half of this clip is a pretty good representation of the LM tone... same strings, same rig, same room, etc. Skip all the jibber jabber up front, and ignore the LG clip in the last half, since I have another clip that is more representative of the LG tone with nickel rounds that I'll post below. However, I guess the LG recording in the second half of the clip is moderately interesting, since you have three 'apples to apples' comparisons of the three models through the same rig in the same room, same player, same strings.

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Finally, here is the LG through the same rig, now with DR Lo Rider nickels.

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Here's a picture of all three basses in the order of the clips, so you can put a picture to the clips. The RA is an unusual RA basic (no blocks and binding) that was, from what I was told, built for Paul Turner. I guess he didn't dig it!

RA5... Poly CAR, Alder, maple board with gloss finish, 70's pickup placement... feels about 10 pounds.

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LM (pictured early in the thread). Poly Harvest Gold, ash, maple board with satin neck finish (to die for!), 70's pickup placement.... about 9 pounds.

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LG... amazing Surf Green nitro finish (it glows!), beautiful, dark Indian RW board, nitro neck finish, 60's pickup position... mid 8 pounds.

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Hi Mike,

Ken is correct, the LM has the more aggressive 70's sound. Load one of those up with the right steel strings and look out! :bassist:

The RA has 70's spacing but an alder body, so it doesn't have quite the "slice" that the ash-bodied LM has. Of all the models of Jimmy's basses (LG5, RA5, LM5) that I've played the, RA is my favourite. It's a great gigging bass that covers most of the sound palette of the other two, but has it's own particular vibe. It can get a great slap tone, but does not have the same edge as the LM. Since you already have the LG, and are looking for the "aggressive 70's sound", the LM is likely your best choice.
 
the draw of talkbass was just too much for ken:D

:D Just a few posts in a few selected threads on occasion, and PM's will stay permanently locked.:)

I'm still totally, completely digging the A-C's, and after three years of pretty constant gigging with the LM, I still feel like a 'kid in a candy shop' regarding the wonderful, relatively traditional J tone I get on the stand in a lightweight, active, hand-made 5 string bass. I am truly in 'zero G.A.S. mode' at this point! And, Jimmy is one of those guys who I enjoy giving my money to... great guy, very honest, etc.

The RA continues to be fun, but not really my vibe, so that might eventually go.
Of course, whenever I feel the need for a bit more modern vibe, I have the wonderful Sadowsky NYC Vintage with singles, which totally scratches my more 'modern J tone' itch on occasion.
 
Hey Peter, can you give us the LOW down on the show?:D
Dan

Excellent show I'd recommend it to everyone if it comes to your city!

I should start by saying I have never been to the Apollo so that was a treat, as you may expect it is rather inconspicuous from the outside during the day and it is much smaller on the inside then I would have expected. Everyone that worked in the place was very friendly and happy to have us... I had also gone to see Return To Forever at The United Palace Theatre in Washington Heights and that was a real suprise and was an impressively ornate and large theatre.

The show....The singing, acting and musicians were all top notch and is everything you would expect from a Broadway quality show. The women playing Effie and the man playing Jimmy Early were exceptional performers. The band was excellent and Jason really did kill it.

The set was fairly minimal with the acception of 6 20 foot LED screens that projected, not really projected it was a see through LED screen, all sorts of cool stuff that made it very entertaining. There was also a really large set of lights on each side of the stage which added a lot. They did a whole lot with a minimal set up something local theatres could learn from. The rhythm section was wheeled out on stage for the live performance scenes and that was pretty cool, Jason's red bass really shined, both sonically and visually.

I have watched the movie many times, as my wife is addicted, and the story line was simplified and some details were removed, or not added in depending on your perspective. There were additional songs that covered the plot and story line that were not in the movie. It's my understanding that this was a musical before it was a movie but I had never seen it before so I can't comment if these are new songs that were added after the movie or if they were in the original and editted out of the movie.

Jason had a lot of cool slap lines in the interludes especially. His tone projected very nicely and sounded great, although his tone was more modern sounding then I would have expected it worked nicely. The horn section did a great job as well and based on the bill it seems these guys are hired local guns and will change from city to city but I could be wrong.

The only negative comment I would make is that the drummer was playing an acoustic drum set and the set was back stage. All the vocals and music sounded great in the theatre speakers but the drums had sounded as if they were coming from way back of the stage and sounded disconnected from the rest of the mix. It could have been where I was sitting but it sounded like his live sound overpowered the FOH mix.

Great job Jason, it seems like an ideal show for a bass player, I hope your enjoying it and it runs for a long time!

Pete

EDIT: I should have mentioned that the costume changes were seemless and worked out very well...
 
Thanks Pete.
Glad you enjoyed the show.

Yes, the horns are contracted in each city ... it's a union gig.
I have a 5 hr rehearsal tomorrow with the new horn section for the Baltimore dates.

The drums, however, were not all acoustic ... the kick & toms are Roland V-Drums ... the snare & symbols are acoustic. Not the easiest combo to mix .. it's been the biggest challenge for the sound guy.

As far as the music goes, there were 2 new tunes written for this version of the play, both by the original composer. "Listen", you heard in the movie sung by Beyonce' and was changed to a duet for the play. "What Love Can Do" was written as a new opener for act two.

Happy Holidays.
 
Ken; that surf green still kills me every time: I love that color!

FWIW: I'm finally an Alleva owner; though it's not quite in transit yet.
Details later, but I'm stoked!
 
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