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Club FBass (Part 5)

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I dig it too.

I keep telling myself I don't need this spec bass... I just need to restore my 76 Jazz bass... but you and Joe are DEFINITELY making "myself" hard for me to hear lately! :eek:

You don't need it, and don't look at this.

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Been eyeing this for awhile. Like Ken's but with a black scratchguard.
 
In the last chapter of our club thread, BIg O made the following announcement (I did the bolding)...

So I've spent the last 2 years battling carpal tunnel syndrome (I finally see the surgeon on Dec 15) and not paying much attention to my instruments, let alone this forum. Just found this thread - this "club" notion is new to me.

I've got 3 F Basses; a 1987 fretted passive 6-string (similar to today's BN6) with the old-style pickups (they have dummies in the cavity), a 2002 Studio 5 (no longer made), and a figured maple topped BN5.

To placate chrisloe here's a low-res pic from another thread.

Firebass made a book recommendation
Bob hasn't signed on since Christmas... I hope all is okay with him.

BIg O made the following announcementthat I casually thought I'd mention to my kid sister who struggles with carpal tunnel, but it looks like I should order a copy for myself now.

I am VERY much a push through the pain and get the job done kind of guy, and while that has worked well for me, I'm finding it has a significant downside as well.

While the docs were looking at my injured thumb, I learned that pain and numbness that I thought were related to the thumb injury are actually carpal tunnel.

I have only been casually aware of carpal tunnel, but now, of course, I'm intensely interested in learning much more about it.

I mention it as a cautionary exhortation to my fellow bass players.

I doubt my carpal tunnel was the result of all my hours in the wood shed (ha ha ha), it was probably more computer related, but it's threat to what I enjoy is still a factor.

Whether it's bass playing, or computer keyboarding (and mousing), or work or pleasure related activity... please listen to your bodies! You'll regret it later if you don't.

Anyway, hope all is will with you, Bob (BIg O).
 
Even better... video. Looks like Jason is using his LDS 112 coax cab for the recording.. nice. This group kills live. I went out to see them in Ann Arbor a while back, and will see them again on the 30th.

I tell you what, living in Detroit is a GOOD thing if you are a bassist. Ralphe Armstrong just started playing a club gig on Thursday's 20 minutes from my house!

WoW, good stuff, Jason sounds great, and Life is Good with a smokin Drummer :D
 
In the last chapter of our club thread, BIg O made the following announcement (I did the bolding)...

Bob hasn't signed on since Christmas... I hope all is okay with him.

Firebass made a book recommendation that I casually thought I'd mention to my kid sister who struggles with carpal tunnel, but it looks like I should order a copy for myself now.

I am VERY much a push through the pain and get the job done kind of guy, and while that has worked well for me, I'm finding it has a significant downside as well.

While the docs were looking at my injured thumb, I learned that pain and numbness that I thought were related to the thumb injury are actually carpal tunnel.

I have only been casually aware of carpal tunnel, but now, of course, I'm intensely interested in learning much more about it.

I mention it as a cautionary exhortation to my fellow bass players.

I doubt my carpal tunnel was the result of all my hours in the wood shed (ha ha ha), it was probably more computer related, but it's threat to what I enjoy is still a factor.

Whether it's bass playing, or computer keyboarding (and mousing), or work or pleasure related activity... please listen to your bodies! You'll regret it later if you don't.

Anyway, hope all is will with you, Bob (BIg O).

I can diagnose this pretty quick :D

How do your position your wrist when plucking, straight or on the bass?
 
Here's the promised clip, through the same rig and in the same room as all the A-C clips I have posted (you can get to those through the menu to the right of the page if you pull up this clip). (By the way, check out some of TBer Visions live clips doing the Headhunter's stuff.. Killer sound with his Fender 5 IMO... they are marked as 'favorites' on the page that opens when you click the link in this post).

This is REALLY quick and dirty.... not even sure if the level is matched to the previous A-C clips, but at least it will give you an idea of how I have it dialed in (the clips are quite representative of the 'live sound' through the TecAmp rig IMO, if you have a decent playback system).

As you can hear, this is not 'your father's smooth, silky BN FBass'.... pretty nice sounding to me, and it has that trademark upper mid aggressiveness to my ear that at least partially defines what many of us loosely call a '70's J' tone (at least through a very clean rig!).

I dig it, and I like that upper mid aggressiveness of the Lo Rider steels on this bass.

There is a clip of the A-C LM on that site somewhere through the same rig in the same room (however, with Hi Beams... so a bit smoother and wider sounding to my ear).

Nice bass!

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cool that you have both clips up now. it reinforced exactly what i heard in all of these basses through my own rig. the coppolo clips had that grindy almost rock sound without the airy sparkle the vf5 had. the fender was even more thin and airy than the vf5 which can be heard in my clips that i posted so you can imagine when i ab'd it with all those coppolos why i thought it didnt sound anything like a late 70's jazz. that fender i have right now sounds like every other late 70's jazz ive owned. the pickups arent that hot.

however, i do like the slightly hotter pickups in a 60's bass and i wish the bridge pickup in particular was just wound a little hotter in the 60's vf5. however, there was so much variation in pickup winding in the 60's that both the f bass and coppolo could end up sounding just like a an old jazz depending on the bass your comparing it to and who wound the pickups that day in fullerton.
 
cool that you have both clips up now. it reinforced exactly what i heard in all of these basses through my own rig. the coppolo clips had that grindy almost rock sound without the airy sparkle the vf5 had. the fender was even more thin and airy than the vf5 which can be heard in my clips that i posted so you can imagine when i ab'd it with all those coppolos why i thought it didnt sound anything like a late 70's jazz. that fender i have right now sounds like every other late 70's jazz ive owned. the pickups arent that hot.

however, i do like the slightly hotter pickups in a 60's bass and i wish the bridge pickup in particular was just wound a little hotter in the 60's vf5. however, there was so much variation in pickup winding in the 60's that both the f bass and coppolo could end up sounding just like a an old jazz depending on the bass your comparing it to and who wound the pickups that day in fullerton.

+1 They all sound very nice to me, and again, within my personal definition of what an ash/maple 70's oriented J should sound like.

We need to get someone to put up similar clips of the new 70's Classic Nordy, which seems to be the other 'boutique 70's J' that 'hits the mark'!

K
 
OT.....Check out our TB buddy Vision's (Jason Phelps) clip of 'Actual Proof', played live with his Fender 5 and killer new group. He is just KILLING it... it's in the 'favorites' list on the page the clip is presented on. That's what I'M talking about. It's through his LMII/410UL rig, and it just SKANKS! I LOVE it!

I'm going to get the VF in his hands to try out.

I hate to mention this, especially in threads based on other than Fender basses, but many (many) of the clips I see with Fenders used in them, kill! They can sound pretty darned good. matters of consistency or QC aside, they seem to be the bench mark much of the time. I read lots of "My ($6K) bass almost nails a Fender sound! :hyper:" comments on TB.

No slam intended. Just an observation that I'm sure I'm not the only one to make. Of course to find a Fender that feels, plays and sounds like that same $6K bass would be a daunting task because most of them just don't. But if you're one of the lucky ones to find that rare gem... :bassist:

Okay, that was pretty pointless. Back to the real topic - Fbasses! :D I want a VF5 alder/RW in a sunburst finish more than I want a Fender! :smug:
 
I hate to mention this, especially in threads based on other than Fender basses, but many (many) of the clips I see with Fenders used in them, kill! They can sound pretty darned good. matters of consistency or QC aside, they seem to be the bench mark much of the time. I read lots of "My ($6K) bass almost nails a Fender sound! :hyper:" comments on TB.

No slam intended. Just an observation that I'm sure I'm not the only one to make. Of course to find a Fender that feels, plays and sounds like that same $6K bass would be a daunting task because most of them just don't. But if you're one of the lucky ones to find that rare gem... :bassist:

Okay, that was pretty pointless. Back to the real topic - Fbasses! :D I want a VF5 alder/RW in a sunburst finish more than I want a Fender! :smug:

+1 If I could find a Fender 5 string that played and felt like these basses, I'd play one.

To your point above, IMO it is perfectly consistent to me to think that a bass that plays like an MTD or Fodera or whatever your best example of 'top of the line' is, but sounds reasonably like a vintage Fender (an old one!) with a much more even response through the neck and a top of the line preamp is 'worth the money':smug:

Also, most of these 'boutique' J's are in the lower to mid $3k range, unless you go crazy on fancy top woods, etc.

A cheap watch keeps time as well as a more expensive one... but there's a lot more to a watch (for at least some of us) than pure time keeping:)
 
+1 They all sound very nice to me, and again, within my personal definition of what an ash/maple 70's oriented J should sound like.

We need to get someone to put up similar clips of the new 70's Classic Nordy, which seems to be the other 'boutique 70's J' that 'hits the mark'!

K

the guts in the nord are voiced more like the f bass guts (although not quite as thin flat so it doesnt need as much boost) so with a northern ash body, that bass would slam. i was very impressed with it even with that 9 and half pound bass i played. the one vic has right now should sound the same as the one i played.
 
I hate to mention this, especially in threads based on other than Fender basses, but many (many) of the clips I see with Fenders used in them, kill! They can sound pretty darned good. matters of consistency or QC aside, they seem to be the bench mark much of the time. I read lots of "My ($6K) bass almost nails a Fender sound! :hyper:" comments on TB.

No slam intended. Just an observation that I'm sure I'm not the only one to make. Of course to find a Fender that feels, plays and sounds like that same $6K bass would be a daunting task because most of them just don't. But if you're one of the lucky ones to find that rare gem... :bassist:

Okay, that was pretty pointless. Back to the real topic - Fbasses! :D I want a VF5 alder/RW in a sunburst finish more than I want a Fender! :smug:

haha. call me crazy, but even after getting these f basses im still gigging my fernandes with my main working band. i think the thing sounds f'n great.

that and i like being able to just leave it lying around and in case i got to give some drunk a chingaso upside the head, i dont have to worry about cracking a 3 thousand dollar bass;)

ive got this fusion hit coming up in february though and both these f's are going to get put to work.
 
I've been diagnosed already. I've seen a few doctors actually.

What I'm talking about is prevention for you guys, and treatment for me.

Yep. It's something that so many people ignore because they don't want to start over learning what is a new technique, essentially. I have known a few very respected local players who have hit that wall and it didn't come out pretty.
 

Even better... video. Looks like Jason is using his LDS 112 coax cab for the recording.. nice. This group kills live. I went out to see them in Ann Arbor a while back, and will see them again on the 30th.

WoW, good stuff, Jason sounds great, and Life is Good with a smokin Drummer :D

Thanks for the love guys! Ken, you're right - the night we recorded the clips was at a smaller venue so I used my LDS 112 cab and it was more than enough for me. And yeah - when you play some nice tunes with a drummer that good it makes it easy to hold it down on bass!
 
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