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Club Sadowsky!!!

#30,681
Vision:
my first Saowsky was/is an RV5 alder/morado.
It came to me with HC's. Totally didn't dig it, despite Vic saying I would :ninja:
Vic told me to swap to single coils before giving up on it.
I did.
I still have it.
End of story.

Except when I bought a new MV5JJ, I had the shop swap in single coils before it left.
SC vs HC is a mission critical diff, for me and my tone prefs.
 
#30,683
Joebone said:
I get no noise, even on full pan, from my Big Singles mounted in an alder/morado 5/24 Metro, although I am set up V/V rather than V/Pan. Can things be shielded that well? Otherwise loving the extra low-mid punch and fundamental, as compared with the soapbars.
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No. Shielding does not obviate the benefit of humbucking.
 
#30,686
GRoberts said:
What are the primary differences sonically and in terms of feel when comparing an MV5 to a 24fret version? 60's spacing
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i have an MV5 (with HC pups) and a NYC 24F5. The 24F5 is 25th Anniversary model featuring mahogany body, koa top and an ebony board.

Sonically, the MV5 is more rounded than the 24F5 with noticeably less zing. Don't get me wrong, the MV5 can have bite (I prefer to favor the bridge pup just a hair) but the 24F5 is very mid-forward and, for lack of better terms, burpy. They sound very different from each other. Despite the modern sound of the 24F5, I find you can get a pretty convincing P-bass tone from it when soloing the neck pup, more so than the MV5 IMO. As of late, I'm favoring the sound of the 24F5 to the MV5. While I can't get a true jazz bass tone with the 24F5, I can tame the aggressiveness of it to my liking when needed enough so that, in a live mix, it works well enough that I don't reach for the MV5 like I used to. In reading the Sadowsky threads though, you'll find that I'm the exception to the rule, it seems most Sadowsky players favor the jazz over the moderns. Before acquiring the 24F5, I read in several places where it was remarked as a "one-trick pony" but my experience with it is quite opposite. Equipped with VTC, I think it's an extremely versatile bass.

What I notice most when switching between the two, feel-wise, is the neck profile. The MV5 neck is thicker front to back while my 24F5 is fairly slim. These are the only two Sadowsky basses that I have played extensively so I'm not sure if this 24F5 was made differently (I'm not the first owner) than other NYC's given that the shop will tailor something to your requests if possible. I prefer the neck profile of the 24F5 over the MV5; both are comfortable though. It reminds me of the neck profile of a Lakland 55-02 that I used to have if that helps. Other than that, I don't notice any major differences when it comes to feel.

Hope this helps. There are certainly folks in here with a considerable amount of experience and expertise over what I have.
 
#30,687
TXLawDawg said:
i have an MV5 (with HC pups) and a NYC 24F5. The 24F5 is 25th Anniversary model featuring mahogany body, koa top and an ebony board.

Sonically, the MV5 is more rounded than the 24F5 with noticeably less zing. Don't get me wrong, the MV5 can have bite (I prefer to favor the bridge pup just a hair) but the 24F5 is very mid-forward and, for lack of better terms, burpy. They sound very different from each other. Despite the modern sound of the 24F5, I find you can get a pretty convincing P-bass tone from it when soloing the neck pup, more so than the MV5 IMO. As of late, I'm favoring the sound of the 24F5 to the MV5. While I can't get a true jazz bass tone with the 24F5, I can tame the aggressiveness of it to my liking when needed enough so that, in a live mix, it works well enough that I don't reach for the MV5 like I used to. In reading the Sadowsky threads though, you'll find that I'm the exception to the rule, it seems most Sadowsky players favor the jazz over the moderns. Before acquiring the 24F5, I read in several places where it was remarked as a "one-trick pony" but my experience with it is quite opposite. Equipped with VTC, I think it's an extremely versatile bass.

What I notice most when switching between the two, feel-wise, is the neck profile. The MV5 neck is thicker front to back while my 24F5 is fairly slim. These are the only two Sadowsky basses that I have played extensively so I'm not sure if this 24F5 was made differently (I'm not the first owner) than other NYC's given that the shop will tailor something to your requests if possible. I prefer the neck profile of the 24F5 over the MV5; both are comfortable though. It reminds me of the neck profile of a Lakland 55-02 that I used to have if that helps. Other than that, I don't notice any major differences when it comes to feel.

Hope this helps. There are certainly folks in here with a considerable amount of experience and expertise over what I have.
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Thanks! Is your 24F NYC a Modern with soapbars or just a 24F 5 string JJ? With the woods being so different, its probably not the most fair A-B, but thank you sharing your experience.

I am eyeing an MV5 that is a 24F JJ Metro, Ash/Maple. Looks gorgeous, but my traditional sensibilities lead me to believe maybe I should stick with a standard MV5 (or RV5) over the 24F versions of those JJ basses. Welcome more thoughts on the question. Figured I would get the most Sadowsky feedback here in this thread. Thx!
 
#30,689
GRoberts said:
What are the primary differences sonically and in terms of feel when comparing an MV5 to a 24fret version? 60's spacing
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Yeah, I've had actually a couple of both... NYC MV5's and both a Metro as well as now a NYC "Vintage 24-Fret 5" with the J pickups in the usual 60's position (my fave overall, BTW). In fact, in all four cases, same woods (ash/maple) and precisely the same pickups (the older SD based singles). So I think I have a pretty good basis for comparison here. Both MV5's were solid bodies, and of course the Metro was solid, tho my NYC 24F is chambered.

Honestly, the only difference I'd say would be significant at all would be regarding slapping. There's MUCH less space between the neck pickup and fingerboard, which means, especially if you're one of those "slap through the strings" players, your tone will change a lot because the overtones in that area are much different than when slapping closer to the octave, and as we all know, overtones play a bigger role in slapping than in fingerstyle. And of course even if you slap just as proficiently over the board as you do through the strings, those are also two different sounds... for example if you were literally able to remove a chunk of the board (which I know of one guy with a custom from another maker who has this feature, and I think for this reason). I wanna' be clear on this, however... this is NOT "bad/good". It's just a difference. That's all.

For fingerstyle, on both instruments I tend to anchor on the pickups, which are in the same location, or go up on the neck, but again, in the same location, depending on what kinda' sound I'm going for, so at least IME, in both cases, pretty much identical, with whatever super subtle diffs maybe being attributable to a longer neck and a smaller body, but honestly, on stage, and maybe even in recordings, I'd consider those to be too subtle to be concerned with.

Anyway, IMHO/IME.

vision said:
Okay I'm sold...I'll have to swap for singles at some point in mine!
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I predict you'll never go back. Just sayin'. :)
 
#30,690
GRoberts said:
Thanks! Is your 24F NYC a Modern with soapbars or just a 24F 5 string JJ? With the woods being so different, its probably not the most fair A-B, but thank you sharing your experience.

I am eyeing an MV5 that is a 24F JJ Metro, Ash/Maple. Looks gorgeous, but my traditional sensibilities lead me to believe maybe I should stick with a standard MV5 (or RV5) over the 24F versions of those JJ basses. Welcome more thoughts on the question. Figured I would get the most Sadowsky feedback here in this thread. Thx!
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It has soapbars. Sorry, re-reading your post I see what you were asking. That early, I guess my brain read it a different way.
 
#30,693
TXLawDawg said:
i have an MV5 (with HC pups) and a NYC 24F5. The 24F5 is 25th Anniversary model featuring mahogany body, koa top and an ebony board.

Sonically, the MV5 is more rounded than the 24F5 with noticeably less zing. Don't get me wrong, the MV5 can have bite (I prefer to favor the bridge pup just a hair) but the 24F5 is very mid-forward and, for lack of better terms, burpy. They sound very different from each other. Despite the modern sound of the 24F5, I find you can get a pretty convincing P-bass tone from it when soloing the neck pup, more so than the MV5 IMO. As of late, I'm favoring the sound of the 24F5 to the MV5. While I can't get a true jazz bass tone with the 24F5, I can tame the aggressiveness of it to my liking when needed enough so that, in a live mix, it works well enough that I don't reach for the MV5 like I used to. In reading the Sadowsky threads though, you'll find that I'm the exception to the rule, it seems most Sadowsky players favor the jazz over the moderns. Before acquiring the 24F5, I read in several places where it was remarked as a "one-trick pony" but my experience with it is quite opposite. Equipped with VTC, I think it's an extremely versatile bass.

What I notice most when switching between the two, feel-wise, is the neck profile. The MV5 neck is thicker front to back while my 24F5 is fairly slim. These are the only two Sadowsky basses that I have played extensively so I'm not sure if this 24F5 was made differently (I'm not the first owner) than other NYC's given that the shop will tailor something to your requests if possible. I prefer the neck profile of the 24F5 over the MV5; both are comfortable though. It reminds me of the neck profile of a Lakland 55-02 that I used to have if that helps. Other than that, I don't notice any major differences when it comes to feel.

Hope this helps. There are certainly folks in here with a considerable amount of experience and expertise over what I have.
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I swear it's as if I wrote this post. I agree completely with everything you've stated. The neck on my M5-24 feels almost exactly like my bud's 55-94.
 
#30,696
ElMon said:
Been a while since I posted here, but wanted to let you folks know that I got an email from Bass Emporium, who are having a liquidation sale and have a black Metro Will Lee 4 listed brand new for $2199.99. Smokin deal!
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Wow, that is a seriously smoking deal indeed. My Metro Will Lee 4 was $3k new.
 
#30,697
#30,698
Thank you Elmon! I just bought it. Great place and sad to see it close. I used to go to Austin once a month on business and always made my monthly pilgrimage there. Never bought a big ticket item there and guess I feel a little bad about it.

Truly a friendly place where you can play anything/everything they had and the staff would never pressure you or make you feel bad. Not to speculate but, as a small business owner I know the trials and tribulations that I go through when it comes to being overly accommodating or strictly business like.

If its true that they are doing a web based business venture, I wish them nothing but the best and Godspeed.
 
#30,699
LowEndGroover said:
Thank you Elmon! I just bought it. Great place and sad to see it close. I used to go to Austin once a month on business and always made my monthly pilgrimage there. Never bought a big ticket item there and guess I feel a little bad about it.

Truly a friendly place where you can play anything/everything they had and the staff would never pressure you or make you feel bad. Not to speculate but, as a small business owner I know the trials and tribulations that I go through when it comes to being overly accommodating or strictly business like.

If its true that they are doing a web based business venture, I wish them nothing but the best and Godspeed.
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Awesome! Glad a TB'er snagged it and wish nothing but good things for the guys at Bass Emporium.
 

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