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Club Sadowsky!!!

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Baird6869 said:
On a gig.... what is the difference between a Jazz style Sadowsky and a Modern?

Just curious... I have 3 Sadowskys with Jazz PU (two 4's and a 5er), a couple of Fender Precisions and a couple of Stingrays.

What will the modern do that my current Sadowskys won't as well as one of my curent Sadowskys paired with a P or a SR.

Thanks!
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Ok, I feel I can answer this after doing two consecutive gigs with the Jazz and Standard 24 5. The jazz is what you would expect from a jazz bass, but with the added Sad. punch. Being used to Jazz basses myself, I just set that like I set my Fender and bam, amazing tone that cut like a knife.

The Modern is a whole nother beast. It is a much more 'Modern' sounding instruments, much more of a full sound, yet punchy due to the two back pups. Its not a jazz bass def. but a whole different animal.

Vic probably can explain it better. :)
 
#3,446
Baird6869 said:
On a gig.... what is the difference between a Jazz style Sadowsky and a Modern?
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The Modern (Metro) and 24-Fret (NYC) are totally different animals. They don't sound like a J at all. They're more in the genre of (tho not sounding identical to, of course) the Smiths, Cirrus', etc. Very aggressive and growly, but not nearly the same depth width and warm big sweet tone as a J. It's what you should expect with really edgy pickups both being closer to the bridge.
 
#3,447
B.C. said:
The Modern is a whole nother beast. It is a much more 'Modern' sounding instruments, much more of a full sound, yet punchy due to the two back pups.
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You were doing fine until you said (and I paraphrase) "more of a full sound than a J". IMHO, the opposite is true. My MV5 is a MUCH bigger and fuller sounding instrument... even if you factor in the Sadowsky mid bump that makes their J's cut through better than most J style basses. The 24F/Modern is much more midrangey and aggressive. Very focused cutting tone. :)
 
#3,448
Vic said:
You were doing fine until you said (and I paraphrase) "more of a full sound than a J". IMHO, the opposite is true. My MV5 is a MUCH bigger and fuller sounding instrument... even if you factor in the Sadowsky mid bump that makes their J's cut through better than most J style basses. The 24F/Modern is much more midrangey and aggressive. Very focused cutting tone. :)
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Hm, now that I think about it, that jazz was amazingly full. I believe you right. :D
 
#3,451
Vic said:
You were doing fine until you said (and I paraphrase) "more of a full sound than a J". IMHO, the opposite is true. My MV5 is a MUCH bigger and fuller sounding instrument... even if you factor in the Sadowsky mid bump that makes their J's cut through better than most J style basses. The 24F/Modern is much more midrangey and aggressive. Very focused cutting tone. :)
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BUT, if you do want your 24F (Modern) to sound big and full - while still offering that midrange punch and focus - you can opt for mahogany as a body wood. Comparing Vic's 24F 5 (ash body, maple top, maple neck, ebony board) to my 25th Anniversary 24F 5 (mahogany body, koa top, maple neck, ebony board), they both sound rather similar from the midrange on up, but the 25th Ann. has more meat and depth to the low end. This makes the highs sound a little different, too, but I think it's just the addition of the low end that makes you hear them differently.

Tom.
 
#3,452
tombowlus said:
BUT, if you do want your 24F (Modern) to sound big and full - while still offering that midrange punch and focus - you can opt for mahogany as a body wood. Comparing Vic's 24F 5 (ash body, maple top, maple neck, ebony board) to my 25th Anniversary 24F 5 (mahogany body, koa top, maple neck, ebony board), they both sound rather similar from the midrange on up, but the 25th Ann. has more meat and depth to the low end. This makes the highs sound a little different, too, but I think it's just the addition of the low end that makes you hear them differently.

Tom.
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That's true, BUT :p, IMHO that's only comparing 24F to 24F. I still feel it wouldn't be as big sounding as the J model. There's a huge difference the body wood alone just can't account for. :)
 
#3,455
Vic said:
That's true, BUT :p, IMHO that's only comparing 24F to 24F. I still feel it wouldn't be as big sounding as the J model. There's a huge difference the body wood alone just can't account for. :)
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That's all I was doing, but the mahogany does, IME/IMHO, bring it a bit closer in regards to the fullness of the low end. The J/J or P/J do seem deeper, though.
 
#3,459
tombowlus said:
That's all I was doing, but the mahogany does, IME/IMHO, bring it a bit closer in regards to the fullness of the low end. The J/J or P/J do seem deeper, though.
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I would definitely agree with Tom here. The J/J and P/J sound deeper to me. The P/J more deep but that is partly because of the wood combo on my P/J (alder and morado) vs my J/J (ash and ebony). The 24F is definitely more mid-forward and I would classify it as aggressive but not as aggresive as many of the other modern basses on the market. Something like a Dingwall comes to mind...they are super "in your face" aggresive to my ears. But, any bass with the pickups shifted towards the bridge like the 24F, Smith, Dingwall, Cirrus and even MTD are going to have aggressive undertones. I still feel like the 24F is still very precise and round sounding compared to some of the others. YMMV

BTW: I should get my J/J back from being Pleked later this week. I will post my findings afterwards.
 

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