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Club Sadowsky!!!

#3,461
B.C. said:
Ok, I feel I can answer this after doing two consecutive gigs with the Jazz and Standard 24 5. The jazz is what you would expect from a jazz bass, but with the added Sad. punch. Being used to Jazz basses myself, I just set that like I set my Fender and bam, amazing tone that cut like a knife.

The Modern is a whole nother beast. It is a much more 'Modern' sounding instruments, much more of a full sound, yet punchy due to the two back pups. Its not a jazz bass def. but a whole different animal.

Vic probably can explain it better. :)
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So which of the two is your favourite in a mix then BC?
 
#3,462
Baird6869 said:
On a gig.... what is the difference between a Jazz style Sadowsky and a Modern?

Just curious... I have 3 Sadowskys with Jazz PU (two 4's and a 5er), a couple of Fender Precisions and a couple of Stingrays.

What will the Modern do that my current Sadowskys won't as well as one of my curent Sadowskys paired with a P or a SR.

Thanks!
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I think the tonal differences have been well-described by others. What I learned from Kevin Drexler is that the body outlines of their standard jazz and M5-24 are identical, except for the deeper body cuts of the 5-24 next to the neck. I always thought that the 5-24 had a much smaller body.
 
#3,463
the JT said:
So which of the two is your favourite in a mix then BC?
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Wow, umm, thats really really tough. I think I gotta say the 24-5. The jazz was awesome too, but those Standards are amazing!

That being said, I think for that gig, the jazz would suit the best. I really need a full but midrangey tone to combat three guitarists. Any other gig though, I would probably choose the Standard. :)
 
#3,465
tombowlus said:
BUT, if you do want your 24F (Modern) to sound big and full - while still offering that midrange punch and focus - you can opt for mahogany as a body wood. Comparing Vic's 24F 5 (ash body, maple top, maple neck, ebony board) to my 25th Anniversary 24F 5 (mahogany body, koa top, maple neck, ebony board), they both sound rather similar from the midrange on up, but the 25th Ann. has more meat and depth to the low end. This makes the highs sound a little different, too, but I think it's just the addition of the low end that makes you hear them differently.

Tom.
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hmm...

would fatstacks make the mahogany/ebony combo too smooth?
 
#3,468
drgregn said:
OK, I want in this club... Just traded for this RV5, put some Blue Nickels on it, and it sounded SO good yesterday in church!

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welcome :)

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#3,471
Baird6869 said:
On a gig.... what is the difference between a Jazz style Sadowsky and a Modern?

Just curious... I have 3 Sadowskys with Jazz PU (two 4's and a 5er), a couple of Fender Precisions and a couple of Stingrays.

What will the Modern do that my current Sadowskys won't as well as one of my curent Sadowskys paired with a P or a SR.

Thanks!
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Totally, completely different tone. The Modern has zero 'J' tone to it. The big soapbar pickups placed tightly together and close to the bridge result in a huge lower midrange bump, and a very, very 'modern' hi fi top end to those basses.

I personally don't dig them much. It's very hard to dial out the burp and punch with these basses. However, if you are one who really likes the sound of a bass with a big humbucker pickup played in 'bridge only mode', these basses kill.

The stock Sadowsky pickups (made by Seymour Duncan) are awesome.... punchy and clean.

The Sadowsky modern reminds me much more of an Alembic or Skjold bass than a Sadowsky J.
 
#3,472
KJung said:
The Sadowsky modern reminds me much more of an Alembic or Skjold bass than a Sadowsky J.
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You had me up until 'Skjold.' :smug: While I agree with much of what you said, including the Alembic reference, IME/IMHO, the Sadowsky 24F 5 (Modern) does not sound very much like a Skjold at all, though perhaps the models with the C4 pickup might be closer.

Tom.
 
#3,473
tombowlus said:
You had me up until 'Skjold.' :smug: While I agree with much of what you said, including the Alembic reference, IME/IMHO, the Sadowsky 24F 5 (Modern) does not sound very much like a Skjold at all, though perhaps the models with the C4 pickup might be closer.

Tom.
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Actually, it sounds quite a bit like the Skjold I had for a short time. The way Pete winds that bridge pickup so hot really has a similar 'bridge pickup burp' that I heard in my Modern that Vic now owns.

However, all these basses have their own sound, so +1. My point was, just like the Alembic and at least the standard Skjold model that I had, the Modern is all about 'modern, sizzly, soapbar humbucker' sound, with an emphasis on low mid punch, and has very little in common with the Sadowsky J's.
 
#3,474
tombowlus said:
You had me up until 'Skjold.' :smug: While I agree with much of what you said, including the Alembic reference, IME/IMHO, the Sadowsky 24F 5 (Modern) does not sound very much like a Skjold at all, though perhaps the models with the C4 pickup might be closer.

Tom.
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+1

If the comment was intended to be really very general about the "modern" thing, maybe, but the Skjold sounds much bigger and fuller to me than the Modern/24F's. It's EASY to dial burp in and out of a Skjold, but Ken, like you said, it's pretty much impossible to dial it out of the Modern/24F.
 
#3,475
Vic said:
+1

If the comment was intended to be really very general about the "modern" thing, maybe, but the Skjold sounds much bigger and fuller to me than the Modern/24F's. It's EASY to dial burp in and out of a Skjold, but Ken, like you said, it's pretty much impossible to dial it out of the Modern/24F.
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Back to Sadowsky info:smug: The main point is that the Modern's sound NOTHING like the more standard J's. My Skjold must have been 'special' :D
 
#3,476
KJung said:
Actually, it sounds quite a bit like the Skjold I had for a short time. The way Pete winds that bridge pickup so hot really has a similar 'bridge pickup burp' that I heard in my Modern that Vic now owns.

However, all these basses have their own sound, so +1. My point was, just like the Alembic and at least the standard Skjold model that I had, the Modern is all about 'modern, sizzly, soapbar humbucker' sound, with an emphasis on low mid punch, and has very little in common with the Sadowsky J's.
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The bridge pickup burp may be similar, but the overall midrange presentation is very, very different, IME/IMHO. Of course, YMMV.

Tom.
 
#3,477
KJung said:
Back to Sadowsky info:smug: The main point is that the Modern's sound NOTHING like the more standard J's.
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I'll agree with you there, for sure.

And I'll add, that while my P/J 5 has never let me down or had any problem fitting into a mix, my 25th Ann 24F 5 is probably the best bass in my arsenal when it comes to cutting through (without overpowering) any mix.

Tom.
 
#3,479
Vic said:
It's EASY to dial burp in and out of a Skjold, but Ken, like you said, it's pretty much impossible to dial it out of the Modern/24F.
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Actually, I find it pretty easy to dial it out. Front pickup only. I recently installed Big Singles in my modern and the front p/u only tone is big, huge and clean. No burp at all.
 
#3,480
VJP said:
Actually, I find it pretty easy to dial it out. Front pickup only. I recently installed Big Singles in my modern and the front p/u only tone is big, huge and clean. No burp at all.
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Yeah, but we're talking about Moderns/24Fs that have the standard configuration. :)
 

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