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Club Sadowsky!!!

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Gigged with Sadowsky and IEM (JH audio Roxanne, 16Pro or even UE's ) like 9-10 years or so, because its always a standard setup for my works and size of venue required that, mainly use Aviom or various monitoring system with different mixing console.

I don't have any specific setting because it is always depends on the IEM mixing engineer, when you're on your good day with a good engineer, you will be in tone heaven, no matter what you do. :P but the bottom line is... I HAVE TO PLAY A SADOWSKY... :)

Just like what a Sadowsky is known for, they cut thru the mix well even in IEM mix, I can clearly listen on what I'm playing and the note really locked in with the kick drum and the music which makes a bass player feels good. When I pick up some other basses to play, normally I had hard time to dial in the mix I like.. but for Sadowsky, 90% of the time, I almost just plug and play, get the job done, of course, I do use some outboard gears to shape my tone but it is a really minor adjustment.

Perhaps just one tips... Normally I boost more Tre than the Bass on the onboard electronics (Sadowsky) to get the bass cut thru more and with more attack, because when many instruments kicking in, like heavy guitars, strong strings, piano and stuff..more Tre will help to cut thru the thick mix. My 0.2 cents :)
 
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Stereo in-ears make a BIG difference over mono. We use the individual iPads for our own mix and that helps too. The ambient mics help a little but not tremendously. But the lack of feeling the kick or bass remains a problem and makes the in-ears "clinical" (as previously mentioned) and not groove-inducing. I mentioned above using a butt-kicker system - that made a HUGE the difference. Very cool system if you haven't seen one. I definitely play better with a butt-kicker installed. Once into a song, I forget I have in-ears, the psychological trick is that convincing.
 
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projectapollo said:
Stereo in-ears make a BIG difference over mono. We use the individual iPads for our own mix and that helps too. The ambient mics help a little but not tremendously. But the lack of feeling the kick or bass remains a problem and makes the in-ears "clinical" (as previously mentioned) and not groove-inducing. I mentioned above using a butt-kicker system - that made a HUGE the difference. Very cool system if you haven't seen one. I definitely play better with a butt-kicker installed. Once into a song, I forget I have in-ears, the psychological trick is that convincing.
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Plus one on the thumper/butt-kicker! The crew installed one under my riser years ago and it does make a Huge difference. The artist I work for does not want amps onstage for volume reason, so the band is on IEMs. Now, if we do a gig and I don't have the thumper, I REALLY miss it.
 
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I use my 64 Audio A4 IEM's to practice at home as well, so I got used to the feeling early, and likely also the fact that I didn't have amp rumble. I'm convinced that wearing them almost daily went a long way to helping me adjust to them, such that when I wear ear plugs, it is a downer, and no ear plugs is horrific (do not like tinnitus or super loud settings). If you get everything mic'd up via an X32 or similar, you can really be in a great situation for clarity.
 
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Sorry off topic alert but still Sadowsky related:
Can anyone confirm that the 3 knob on board preamp also has VTC?
I just read on the site that the circuit is the same as the 4 knob but only the 4 knob makes mention of the vtc control. Thanks
 
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RNG1 said:
This is the part that I find confusing though:
“Controls are vol/pan/treble-bass. Pulling up on the volume control bypasses the preamp for passive operation.”

Is it possible that once you pull up it becomes VTC?
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I think the VTC requires its own pot. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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I thought about that actually just to see if I’d like the sound combo with this bass but my thought was to have more control on board. But I appreciate you mentioning this because I didn’t realize that the tone control would function that way. Might be worth picking one up here on TB to try and see if I like it. Thenif I like it I could get the onboard 4 knob. I could always add a side jack to this bass. I just didn’t want to do it if I wasn’t sure. Thanks
 
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RNG1 said:
This is the part that I find confusing though:
“Controls are vol/pan/treble-bass. Pulling up on the volume control bypasses the preamp for passive operation.”

Is it possible that once you pull up it becomes VTC?
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I think the push/pull volume pot transitions you between active and passive...

As @LightForce104 said, 3 knob version doesn't have the VTC. You could inquire Sadowsky & Co as to whether the 4 knob unit occupies the same space as the 3 knob unit, which in all likelihood, it does... I'm thinking a few screws, bridge and pickup connections, and voila, you're done. You may be able to cover most of the cost of the 4, by selling the 3...?

Outboard pre? Another wonderful option. Again, $$$...

@RNG1, I know it's just pieces and parts, whose sum makes it greater than it's pieces and parts, but yeah... please don't drill into it... here comes those $$$ again, but these are subtracted from the basses worth at any given point in time. Put another another way, I don't want you drill another hole, either...

... good luck!
 

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Thanks for the thoughts. I was just on the Sadowsky site, looks like I could just get this new smaller SBP-2 just to see how I like how the preamp sounds with this bass. I really don’t need all the features the SBP-1 has for this purpose. I’m really not a pedal guy but this makes sense as it’s an experimental purpose rather than running like bull into the china shop.
 
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RNG1 said:
Thanks for the thoughts. I was just on the Sadowsky site, looks like I could just get this new smaller SBP-2 just to see how I like how the preamp sounds with this bass. I really don’t need all the features the SBP-1 has for this purpose. I’m really not a pedal guy but this makes sense as it’s an experimental purpose rather than running like bull into the china shop.
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Plus that can be used with any instrument that you have now or get in the future.
 
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