"No builder can possibly please everyone"
Agree.
But certain ones, like Roger, sure do excel in pleasing moi.
Agree.
But certain ones, like Roger, sure do excel in pleasing moi.
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A little PSA for all of you. Using myself as the example.
How well do those little bungies grab hold? I have heard that on the Gator version, they don't stay secure as well as one would like.
Thanks, Tom.
Agreed: we're all having a discussion, no one's picking on anyone.
As I've stated a numerous times, there is no right or wrong string spacing, neck profile, etc -- it's nothing more than personal preference. As I also stated, I completely understand the business reasons why Music Man would not want to try to please the 19mm crowd. I don't feel marginalized by that. The only problem I had with EBMM is that they dangled that lame-ass, preposterously-limited offer of a 19mm Stingray and then declared that the alleged lack of response was proof that Music Man fivers have the correct string spacing and there wasn't any real demand for 19mm. ROFL. They got the result they wanted, IMO.
My ultimate conclusion is that no builder can possibly please everyone, especially with regards to necks and playability. These days there's lots of competition in the guitar industry, and profit margins are slim. Both Sadowsky and EBMM should continue to do what's best for their bottom line, which is what's best for their customer base. You want a slim-necked Sadowsky 5, while I wanted a wide-spaced Stingray 5... neither of us is being marginalized. Both companies are sticking with what they know will sell.
Consider this: if Music Man made a 19mm fiver, then without a doubt some would say "the spacing is an improvement but the neck profile is still the wrong shape and/or thickness". Or, "I wanted wider spacing at the bridge but not at the nut". See where I'm going?
I wish you best of luck: perhaps Roger will one day sell a fiver with your preferred bridge spacing, nut width, and neck profile. But it's rare to find companies that offer these options. At least Roger offers different nut widths and bridge spacing on his fivers, which is more than EBMM offers on theirs.
I think what you're saying here ... if you'll allow me to deliberately mis-read your statement for my own purposes ... is that Roger and Co. simply must release a P5 and an MM5 model, in the Satin/Metro Series, that have a PBody. I mean, it's only logical, and I'll go first.

Here are a couple of photos from my band's gig at PrideFest here in Springfield, IL last Saturday. We were the middle band of three bands on the main stage, which was at one end of the PrideFest event (it spanned several city blocks), with the Illinois State Capitol building in the background. Photos by CB Media.
There were an estimated 20,000 people over the course of the day who attended Springfield Pridefest. We're not Chicago, we are a mid-sized city, so that's pretty incredible for us. It was an awesome, unforgettable, once-in-a-lifetime experience playing that show.
The bass is my Lake Placid Blue Sadowsky Satin J-Bass. The best bass ever made.
The woman in the black dress next to me isn't in the band, she was the ASL sign language interpreter, which was cool and a first for me.
Happy Pride season to all who celebrate it!
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Such a great colour (English spelling!) choice with your Sadowsky. It really pops out in the pic and looks great. Awesome gig and pics!
That's gorgeous, I love matching headstocks on certain colors and that's one of them.Sadowsky Japan did another run of limited edition Metros this time with matching headstocks.
Check out this beauty: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
I have the highest regard for the quality Roger established in his shop in Tokyo. By no means are the Metros a lower quality instrument, they are impeccably made just like the NYC instruments. In fact, my main 5 string bass for the past year has been a Metro MV5 (greenburst) from the limited edition run of burst finishes that are not standard to the Metro line.
Quick question for the group: I keep going back and forth between jazz basses with P/J and J/J pickups in them.
I’m doing some work on my place this summer and I’m going to have to put a lot of my gear in storage and just pick one good all around bass to keep out.
What would you pick as your solid all around Sadowsky?
Sadowsky Japan did another run of limited edition Metros this time with matching headstocks.
Check out this beauty: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
I have the highest regard for the quality Roger established in his shop in Tokyo. By no means are the Metros a lower quality instrument, they are impeccably made just like the NYC instruments. In fact, my main 5 string bass for the past year has been a Metro MV5 (greenburst) from the limited edition run of burst finishes that are not standard to the Metro line.