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Club Sadowsky!!!

Here's my Sadowsky ... bought a few weeks ago at Chicago Music Exchange. It's a Hybrid PJ Bass 5-String with a Swamp Ash body. Nice and light and plays great. It will get its baptism during April, when our band has something like six gigs, a mix of openers and headliners. That's me on the left with Eric "razor" Retjer, the bass guy at CME. Great place, my wife is lucky I didn't walk out with the 51 P Bass I saw!
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Hi guys,

I recently bought a German Metroline VJ24-5, it’s a beautiful bass, and I really like the sound and feel of it. The bass has a chambered body and weighs 3.75kg which is very light. The only problem is that it has a small amount of neck dive. Original Sadowsky tuning machines are 80g per machine, which makes up about 400g total. What do you think, will switching to Hipshot USA Ultralites solve the diving neck problem? And which model should I buy that is compatible with the original tuners?

I have already tried a wider strap, it helps but does not solve the problem totally.

Two of these original Sadowsky tuners are also feeling too stiff.

I even wrote an email to Warwick but the answer was literary “This is the first time I hear that Sadowsky bass has a neck dive” and that was all.

Thank you all in advance!

In terms of straps…I have found that a strap that forms to your arm stays in place. Check out the Neotech Megastrap…they were the supplier for the original Sadowsky NYC neoprene strap. The neoprene forms to your shoulder and stays in place nicely on my 8 pound nyc 5-24. The latest version is more robust and almost 1/2” thick with strong leather ends. Good luck, hope this helps!
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In terms of straps…I have found that a strap that forms to your arm stays in place. Check out the Neotech Megastrap…they were the supplier for the original Sadowsky NYC neoprene strap. The neoprene forms to your shoulder and stays in place nicely on my 8 pound nyc 5-24. The latest version is more robust and almost 1/2” thick with strong leather ends. Good luck, hope this helps!
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2022 Metroline WL5 in pic. Works well on that one too!
 
Direct replacement would be these: USA Ultralite® Bass Tuning Machine 1/2

According to Hipshot, they weigh 55 grams each.

https://docs.hipshotproducts.com/20675_ULTRALITE_1-2_CLOVER_KEY.pdf

I was going to say... I once weighted my USA against my LIC 1/2 Ultralites and they were the same weight.

I was assuming my German Sadowsky's tuners were branded Hipshot LIC Ultralites. They looked really similar. Now that I learned they are 80g each (and I just took one off to weigh it), I took a better look at them, compared to the LICs and realized they are not the same.

I was already finding it strange that myself and many others here were complaining about how "not smooth" these Metroline tuners were. Now it makes sense. They are not Hipshot LICs.

I could live with the extra weight, if the tuners worked well. The bass is not heavy as a whole. But I'm guessing that Roger is not aware of how bad these tuners are.

Now I'm probably going to upgrade these tuners myself. Shaving 5 oz and getting smoother tuners is worth it. Even going to LIC is already an upgrade.
 
In terms of straps…I have found that a strap that forms to your arm stays in place. Check out the Neotech Megastrap…they were the supplier for the original Sadowsky NYC neoprene strap. The neoprene forms to your shoulder and stays in place nicely on my 8 pound nyc 5-24. The latest version is more robust and almost 1/2” thick with strong leather ends. Good luck, hope this helps!
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Thanks for the tip! I've already switched to GruvGear Solostrap Neo and it feels much better now. But I will definitely check out Neotech!
 
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I was going to say... I once weighted my USA against my LIC 1/2 Ultralites and they were the same weight.

I was assuming my German Sadowsky's tuners were branded Hipshot LIC Ultralites. They looked really similar. Now that I learned they are 80g each (and I just took one off to weigh it), I took a better look at them, compared to the LICs and realized they are not the same.

I was already finding it strange that myself and many others here were complaining about how "not smooth" these Metroline tuners were. Now it makes sense. They are not Hipshot LICs.

I could live with the extra weight, if the tuners worked well. The bass is not heavy as a whole. But I'm guessing that Roger is not aware of how bad these tuners are.

Now I'm probably going to upgrade these tuners myself. Shaving 5 oz and getting smoother tuners is worth it. Even going to LIC is already an upgrade.

Agreed - weight I could deal with, but the the functionality of the OEM tuners on my German Metroline just wasn’t up to what I’ve experienced with USA or licensed Ultralites. I never found the need or want to replace the licensed Ultralites on any of the Japanese-made Metros I had in the past.

With that said, my German Metro MJ5 is a fantastic bass otherwise; it’s the one I’m playing the most now. At only 7.9 pounds, it’s extremely comfortable to play.