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Club Sadowsky!!!

Neck Dive
I wish I had a dollar for every time I have had to have this conversation.
All Fender style basses (and many others) have neck dive when seated. It does not matter if the bass weighs 7 pounds or 12 pounds.
When standing, neck dive is a function of the strap you use. If the back of your strap has a slick material (vinyl, shiny leather, etc), you will experience neck dive.
If your strap has a backing that provides more resistance (cotton, suede or anything with a rougher texture, your bass should remain in place, even if you let both hands off of the bass.
This bass weighs 7.44 pounds


This bass weighs 8.44 pounds.
Does the Sadowsky Modern shape do any better while seated?
 
Does the Sadowsky Modern shape do any better while seated?

not really. the cutaway is deeper, but the lower horn is in the same location.

The Single Cut on the other hand……it’s not comfortable to play sitting down because the horn is shorter and it slips off your leg easily.
 
Even more shocking when you realize the same tuners on the chinese metroexpress are installed in the $4k German metros......I would expect hipshot ONLY for the cost of a new German.....
Yeah, I'm a couple of weeks into a new MIG Sadowsky, including one band rehearsal in that time, and have so far been underwhelmed with the electronics compared to my MIJ models. Also, didn't realize the tuners were the same as the MetroExpress versions.
 
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This is the best investment in MiG Sadowsky.
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Really shouldn’t have to do that at this price point. Just my opinion

Agreed on both accounts. The USA Hipshots were unfortunately a needed improvement on the one German Metroline I have.

…did the USA Hipshot's happen to reduce weight?

Very small difference overall on mine: stock was 7.9 lbs; USA Hipshots, 7.78 lbs.
 
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Hello KaseofBass,
what was the reason for changing
the original tuners?

Out of five, two had noticeable 'catches' in them and felt like they were grinding or something - not smooth at all. Like someone was putting the brakes on, then letting off, then brakes, etc, etc. Then a third tuner was extremely stiff feeling and with adjustment, just became very sloppy feeling - I could never get it to not either be tough to turn or really loose and sloppy. Being used to, and expecting similar feel to, the Hipshot Ultralites, they were just a total let down. The USA Hipshots I've had are just smooth, no catches, no tough turns...they just work and work very well.

Granted, many haven't had this experience, but I'm not alone in my experience either.
 
Out of five, two had noticeable 'catches' in them and felt like they were grinding or something - not smooth at all. Like someone was putting the brakes on, then letting off, then brakes, etc, etc. Then a third tuner was extremely stiff feeling and with adjustment, just became very sloppy feeling - I could never get it to not either be tough to turn or really loose and sloppy. Being used to, and expecting similar feel to, the Hipshot Ultralites, they were just a total let down. The USA Hipshots I've had are just smooth, no catches, no tough turns...they just work and work very well.

Granted, many haven't had this experience, but I'm not alone in my experience either.

This has been my experience! I actually reached out to Sadowsky/Warwick about it
 
Hi ragetoca,

Didn t you get any help from Sadowsky Germany? I though it was part of the contract between Roger Sadowsky and Warwick to keep the costumer service on a high level?

They asked me for links where people were commenting about issues with the tuners, so I sent them.....all they said was: "Thanks, we will investigate because we have not heard any complaints about this"