Some have solid roasted pine bodies
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That one is on it's way across the Atlantic to my doorstep
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That one is on it's way across the Atlantic to my doorstep
These chinese Warwick/Sadowsky Metro Expresses have had so many iterations and modifications that it is hard to keep it all straight. From people posting in this thread they seem to be getting better but changes and updates are still coming/needed. I have no interest in them, but I'm glad people are finding the bass for them.
Nice! Can you post the specs? They took the page down.
There were only two (very shortly) available -
The Satin Series are discontinued for several years now.
I assume they built two, just because they can. Sadowsky is not taking any 'Satin'orders.
It's not even on the 'previous sold' page - It will be an enigma in a few years
Maybe cheap offshore instruments are just not compatible with Roger’s vision and standards(?). These instruments could be judged more harshly because they have his name on them(?). But, that’s exactly what people are paying for.
Do let us know how it sounds, I haven't heard of roasted Pine being used as a body material on a bass, so I'm interested to hear about it. Do you have access to another Sadowsky as a comparison?There were only two (very shortly) available -
The Satin Series are discontinued for several years now.
I assume they built two, just because they can. Sadowsky is not taking any 'Satin'orders.
It's not even on the 'previous sold' page - It will be an enigma in a few years
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I use more of the VTC than the treble knob, I start with both very low and go from there, I usually end up with treble at 20% and VTC 70-90%.....People tend to open both of them fully and it gets way too bright
Yeah I bet it would. I've been keeping the vtc down to about twenty percent with maybe ten to fifteen on the bass boost and treble boost all the way off. I have a Lull that was originally wired with a passive tone that worked when it was in active mode. Always bugged me to have two treble controls.
Sound differs from person to person but my suggestion for the VTC as a starting point is the "- - -- " position. Volume full, Balance middle (or slightly to the bridge), and the other knobs in the opposite direction.
I put the VTC preamp in my SMX5. I’ve had good success running the bass and treble at about 20-25% on and using the tone knob and p/u blend to shape the final sound. Having the tone knob is a big plus in my book.
Will do - I have a Metro Verdine White PJ to compare it with.
You're mistaken, I can't believe anyone maxes out both treble and VTC. As you say, that would be an extreme treble boost.
Someone else said these are "two treble controls", but I disagree with that too. The VTC is a passive tone control: cut only. It affects treble the most I suppose, but as you roll it back it also cuts mids.
The treble and bass controls are both boost only, and when maxed, deliver a ton of boost. There may be some who max out both treble and bass for a highly scooped (and boosted!) signal, but the majority stick with gentle boosts, or none at all.
A few of us will dial in a moderate to significant treble boost, but soften it by rolling back the VTC. The two controls behave very differently, so they don't just cancel each other out. The result I get is a subtle mid boost.
100% correct. I tend to boost bass and treb by about 1/3, treb a touch higher, then roll the VTC back according to the room. Roger just nailed it with this design - as simple as it may seem...
Ok. Appreciate the info guys. I was thinking that the active treble boost could not replace what the vtc first took away if you know what I mean. Like the preamp is after the vtc so that the pre only what’s left after the vtc bleeds of the passive tone. If I’m saying all that right. Which I’m pretty sure is how the passive/active tone knob worked on my bartolini equipped Lull.
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Linus And Lucy, David Benoit's arrangement, played on my Metro Express Modern:
If you set the VTC to full cut then the active treble probably won't do much even at full boost... that's the nature of a passive tone control. However there can be interesting and pleasing results when combining moderate cut from the VTC with boost from the active treble.
For rock I like a bright roundwound sound so I only dial back the VTC for less rockin' tunes. Where I love using VTC cut along with treble boost is with my Sadowsky P5 strung with flats... I mostly use that bass with a country/rootsy/bluesy band I sometimes gig with.
I apologize if this question has been asked many times, still trying to get used to the search functions on Talkbass... If one wants to change the chrome hardware on a Metro bass to black, where can you get black neck ferrules and screws for a Metro bass? I emailed W distribution a few days ago and haven't heard anything back. Any info would be appreciated.
