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Club Sadowsky!!!

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wolfbass1025 said:
Hey Vic- how are you diggin your metro PJ5? I'm getting more and more interested in those..
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Chef said:
I'm surprised he's not here raving about it now ;)
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Exactly. :) I've definitely thought about it, but I figure I've gushed about that thing enough and I don't want it to get "old", you know?

That said, I play that bass every bit as much as my NYC, and I have to be brutally honest, I like it every bit as much. Definitely noticeably nicer than any other Metro I've personally played, so either I've been somewhat unlucky in the past (which is what I'd like to think at this point), or the Metro shop has kicked it up a notch.

I personally feel that I currently have the best Sadowskys I've ever played or owned. Ever. And that also includes my '04 plain jane ash/maple NYC JJ5/SC which continues to seriously float my boat.
 
#10,423
Vic said:
That said, I play that bass every bit as much as my NYC, and I have to be brutally honest, I like it every bit as much. Definitely noticeably nicer than any other Metro I've personally played, so either I've been somewhat unlucky in the past (which is what I'd like to think at this point), or the Metro shop has kicked it up a notch.
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I'd have to agree with this, although I'm only a day into the NYC. I really need to play out with the NYC, as I've learned that the solo sound means little in a band situation. The RV5PJ though has a warm bite that is hard to beat. The biggest difference is just one of weight/comfort. 7.7lbs vs 9.5lbs is a big deal if you're wearing the instrument for 4-5 hours.

What this really means is I need a NYC PJ5...
 
#10,424
chris.gotfunk said:
Wow!!! They both sound great! I am gonna have to say the NYC is first and the 5PJ is second...... I just woke up and so did my ears, so we'll see if that is correct.
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It is indeed. The NYC was recorded a little hotter and I'm whacking at the strings a bit so there are clicks and noises. Those dissapear as soon as you add guitar or keys though. I have already dialed in the PJ pickup and string heights, haven't touched the NYC yet. I think the NYC needs just a little more neck pu (or a little less bridge) and a hair lower action.

There are a couple of interesting difference between the Metro and NYC. Most obvious is the weight (but that will vary from instrument to instrument). The other thing I noticed is that the Metro has equal magnet heights on the pups, while the NYC has magnets that follow the neck profile (ie higher in the middle). I think that helps with even string response. Also the NYC has a little tint to the neck and it feels like a slightly different finish on the back.
 
#10,426
nostatic said:
The other thing I noticed is that the Metro has equal magnet heights on the pups, while the NYC has magnets that follow the neck profile (ie higher in the middle). I think that helps with even string response.
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Interesting to know. My UV70 has single coils in it and the magnet height matches the curve of the fretboard as well. Makes for a nice even response.

That NYC JJ is just a beaut man! Congrats again!
 
#10,428
nostatic said:
... 7.7lbs vs 9.5lbs is a big deal if you're wearing the instrument for 4-5 hours.

What this really means is I need a NYC PJ5...
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Totally agreed. That's the only reason I sold my beloved Olympic white NYC PJ5. It was 9.5 lbs. I replaced it with a black NYC PJ5 that weighs 8 lbs. It's like night and day when playing it for long sets. And it still sounds every bit as meaty as my heavier one did.
 
#10,429
nostatic said:
After having played around with both after a night, I can say that for me at least, having an alder/rw bass in PJ config is going to be a necessity. The ash/maple is a beaut and it defines the "modern jazz" tone, but for the r&b/blues/soul think I feel the pj/rw a little more. If you love your RV4 and like playing a 4, I'd figure out a way to keep both. But maybe in JJ the rw and maple aren't that different.
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That's pretty much why I decided to sell some other basses to finance the Will Lee I've ordered (still 4-6 weeks out). I just really dig the tone on my alder/Braz. RW PJ, and thought that the ash/maple WL I've ordered would be better as an addition than a substitution for the PJ. I figured that even if the WL became my unquestioned #1, I'd still crave the tone of the PJ from time to time.
 
#10,430
thisSNsucks said:
Does anyone know what the upcharge is for a Brazilian Rosewood Board on a NYC 4 string Jazz would be? I'd hit up the shop but this is more for future planning, so I dont want to bug them with my hypotheticals lol. You can PM me if you know off hand.
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I am now charging $300 for "standard" grade and $600 for "master grade". My two suppliers over the years are pretty much exhausted, so I do not expect to be able to get any more than my current stash.

Roger
 
#10,435
Sadowsky said:
Don't worry, my stash is significant.

Roger
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#10,436
nostatic said:
It is indeed. The NYC was recorded a little hotter and I'm whacking at the strings a bit so there are clicks and noises. Those dissapear as soon as you add guitar or keys though. I have already dialed in the PJ pickup and string heights, haven't touched the NYC yet. I think the NYC needs just a little more neck pu (or a little less bridge) and a hair lower action.

There are a couple of interesting difference between the Metro and NYC. Most obvious is the weight (but that will vary from instrument to instrument). The other thing I noticed is that the Metro has equal magnet heights on the pups, while the NYC has magnets that follow the neck profile (ie higher in the middle). I think that helps with even string response. Also the NYC has a little tint to the neck and it feels like a slightly different finish on the back.
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what a beautiful bass! what strings came on it? and are those SC's? sounds like it it will cut like a laser in a live mix, sounds great!
 
#10,438
sok monkee said:
what a beautiful bass! what strings came on it? and are those SC's? sounds like it it will cut like a laser in a live mix, sounds great!
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Strings are the Sadowsky stainless blues, and hum canceling pups. I'm actually a little surprised at the tone on the thing. I was expecting it to be very bright and a little out of control. It actually is pretty tame - the Metro PJ has a bit more sizzle. The more I play the NYC though, the more I warm to it. The Metro is a little easier to play and get a tone out of the box (there is a slight action difference), whereas the NYC is more dynamic and needs to be worked a bit more (but has more room to work if that makes sense). It is subtle though. When I switch back and forth I keep thinking, "I like this one better."

The joy of a sub-8 lb bass is massive though. As for how it sits in a live mix, I'll have to wait as I don't have anything scheduled until a new years eve gig unless something pops up (which it likely will). Just messing around the house playing with loops and along with songs the NYC does seem to pop out in a mix a bit more. I think it is the burp that pushes it whereas the PJ has more low and mid low. Funny because I actually adjusted the P pup down a bit as it just had so much low end it swamped the bridge pup. With the NYC I raised the neck pup a bit to get a little more low mid in it.

Still some tweaking to do and breaking things in. The biggest issue is just learning where all the sweet spots are for finger positions. The JJ seems more sensitive to right hand position and attack than the PJ.
 
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nostatic said:
If only the govt would legalize it we wouldn't have these shortages. And think of the tax revenues!

Oh wait...you're talking about brazilian rosewood. Nevermind...
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You got it backwards. It's illegal BECAUSE there's a shortage, and they don't want the species eradicated.
 

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