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Confessions of a Flatwound convert...

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I do not think you need less bass at all, I liked the level very much. I think the bass is what drives that song, not just because I am a bassist. Very well done :)
 
I really like that! Great job!

So we made some progress on a mix today but it's definitely not quite there yet. It's a really simple song but it's one that I used the double P with chromes on. I'm using a Sansamp RBI, DBX 166A, and Voodoo Lab Sparkle Drive for a touch of subtle overdrive (you can really barely notice, the double P is really that growly). I could deal with a little less bass (yes from the bassist!), a little more rhythm guitar, and the drums definitely need some work. Too much high end from the crashes in the chorus, not enough kick highs, not enough snare midrange.

Regardless, this is a pretty good representation of what the double P with DiMarzio pickups sounds like with typical cutting of lows and highs and some slight mid boosting. Nothing is boosted more than about 1db. The neck is full on, bridge @ 75%, tone wide open.

I used an Electro Harmonix Nano Small Stone for the intro, and a Boss CE-5 for that chorused note at the end of the chorus and for the bridge.

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It's a Fender Mexican P with an American Jazz Neck and DiMarzio pickups. If you like the precision punch, want more bite and attack definition, but want a deeper and wider sound than a Jazz in the bridge offers, I highly recommend the mod. My bass is very thumpy and woody. Not only does it sound excellent, but it sounds original too. I'll post a recording today that I made with the double P and the chromes.


Thanks! I'll listen to the recording, very interesting.
 
Thanks for the kind words. I hope that helps convince some people out there that flats really don't have to sound dull. Chromes are great strings. There are lots of other great strings out there. Some of them are rough and some of them are smooth. They all sound different and should be used on different basses and in different situations.
 
Absolutely. I'm really into Chromes and D'Addario Nickels rounds right now. They're both extremely versatile strings. I can get plenty of clank, zing, thump, or any other vague onomatopoeia out of both.
 
i just replaced an old set of chromes on a new bass - the old g string would not fit it as it was cut too short for last bass. This is an attempt to try flats one more time. I love how the new ones sound over the old - I like that bit of ring on top. I also went a bit heavier gauge. Will put them in a gig tomorrow night and see how it goes.
 
Just got back from an outdoor gig under a big tent. Weird acoustics, but my bass sat in the pocket all night. Tight sound and could hear every note clearly.

The longer I play these Chromes, the better they sound. They've been broken in for some time now, but every gig leaves me more amazed at how great my bass sounds with flats.

It's funny that after almost 30 years of chasing my sound with rounds, in doing nothing more than switching to flats I discover the sound I've been seeking and haven't had a single "tone" or "hearing my bass" issue since.

+ infinity. :D :bassist:
 
Sundogue, what gauge are you using? Do you rely on stage amp or pa mainly for live shows?
thanks,

.45-.132

I rely on my stage rig for my onstage sound and a PA for the crowd. We run our own PA for all shows and I have total control over my sound. I have a wireless so I can go out into the crowd during soundchecks and periodically throughout the night.
 
Hmm, earlier I said I don't like to tap with flats, but I set up a bass with extra low action, and Chromes, tuned E to C, and I'm loving it, great tap tone, easy to play, and no unwanted buzz when recording.
 
Amen to this thread. I use Fender 9050M flats on my Aerodyne bass. The big, warm low end of flats really compliments the brighter sounds up top in a way I can't explain. It's like a carrier wave, helping the whole sound come through...
 
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I couldn't resist.
I knew someone would pick up on that ;)

Maybe it sounds odd, but she covers every frequency range, so sonically she has an amazing ear. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that every bass player I have ever listened to has had an influence on me in some way, I find that my style and approach to bass is a bit unorthodox, but so is my musical tastes.
 
Hey everyone. Just got home from my first practice with Rotosound Tru Bass strings...
I am in love. These are quite possibly the best string I have ever played, period. I have had such a love/hate relationship with flats: too much tension/great tone, not enough tension/no tone, trouble cutting through, neck adjustments....

I was about ready to throw the towel in. I was dead set on trying flats one more time and the only sets of flats they had at the shop were GHS, D' Addario and the nylon TRU Bass. GHS I have used a couple times and while their tension was ok, the tone was a bit weak, IMO. As far as the D' Addario's go, they will never come within five feet of my basses (bad experinces relating to tension and consistency). I took a chance on the Tru Bass strings but it was cool because there was a Squire with them on in the shop window and I got to try them out. SOLD. Nothing like the Fender Nylons and the tone is what I hear in my head when I think Flats. Sat awesome in a band mix and cut through well. I espescially liked the way the highs cut through...with a punch and resonance totally lacking in any Roundwound string I have ever played and most flats.

These will remain on my Precision for a long time.
 
As my previous post mentioned I tried some TI's on a Pbass (RW) and was thinking it was the best it ever sounded. I put some Chromes on it for the heck of it and rehearsed tonight and was very unimpressed and disappointed. I was really wound up thinking it would really sound good and ended up wilting when I heard it. Even after adjusting, I never got a tone to my liking. I like the Chromes on my Fender Hotrod Pbass (Maple) but this just didn't sound good at all. Thinking the TI's will go back on it.
 
So out of curiosity, what was it you did not like about them in comparison? I have not heard the TI's, but use chromes.

There was a certain hollowness or presence that seemed to be lacking. I have an Ampeg 3PRO and shifted the mid frequencies around and still didn't get as full of a sound with the TIs. I know that's all subjective, but in the end I was surprised that I kept noticing that I wanted to do something to the sound, whereas with the TIs I just played and kept thinking how full and punchy the sound was. I think I'll leave the Chromes on for one more try before putting them on something else and going back to the TIs.

With the TIs I played with a pick briefly and didn't really care for that, but it was when I was fooling around for a few seconds so I wouldn't say you can't "pick" them. I happen to like the lower tension on the TIs, but I play with my fingers not a hammer!

The Chromes seemed to have a little more bass, but that wasn't a problem. The odd thing is as I said, I really like them on my Pbass Hotrod. But it has different stock PUs and maple FB. Who knows, the TIs may not sound good on it!

Currently I have the TIs on a G&L JB-2 (Jazz type bass) and I seem to prefer DA Half-wounds. But I haven't played it out yet with the TIs. Hope that helps a little.
 
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