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Considering a Rickenbacker 4003

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I've never owned a Ric, and it's hard for me to comment on pricing outside of Canada, but... I've wanted a Ric for a while now and my experience has been that used Ric prices tend to be higher than I think is reasonable for a used instrument. I will keep looking of course, but I'm starting to think I'd be better of shopping new instruments if I someday buy a Ric. Just my two cents.

Ordered from Long & McQuades January 2020 with expected 12 month wait. Four months later this arrives. Sporting the newly redesigned bridge. I’m smitten. Marc
 
Considering a Rickenbacker 4003

(Disclaimer: I love the iconic look, and lots of guys get that 'Ric' sound out of them, but I'm NOT one of them)

Their quirks are well known, any of which would kill the deal for me. The world has moved on since the mid 50's, and to me these are 'new' vintage guitars, even more amazing as all the quirks are available in a brand new instrument. Here on these pages, Rickenbacker's customer service is roundly skewered time after time, but there seems to be a market for them, no doubt aided by them smartly limiting production. Evidently, even they've given up on that pot-metal, unadjustable by mortals bridge, so who knows, maybe the pickups by Marconi will go away sooner or later, and they'll put titanium or carbon fiber in a single truss-rod neck. Stranger things have happened . . . .

Nothing to see here, keep walking, please.
 
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I’ve owned a couple 4003s and wanted so desperately to love them. They look and sound great, and I even loved the necks on mine, but the bridge, ergonomics, buzz, and overall construction just killed it for me.

I remember doing recordings with one Ric and couldn’t get over how buzzy it sounded. I eventually grabbed my P bass. To my shock and surprise, I was able to get a very similar tone to my Ric but with no buzz. I returned the Ric the next day.
 
I’ve owned two newer Ric 4003 basses, and they were both excellent and very stable once setup. The bridge is a PIA, but again once it’s set, leave it alone and you’re golden. There are a few shops on the web where you can find them new for about $1600– even though you will see used ones selling for more (just another strange aspect of the brand).

Newer versions have slightly wider necks than most other brands, but the thickness front to back is quite shallow (the whole “baseball bat” thing is nonsense, unless you have the hands of a princess and have never personally held a baseball bat...).

The body is rather small and overall weight tends to be on the lighter side. The tone will make you smile like a kid on Christmas morning ;)

Naturally mine is just one opinion among many. If it wasn’t for the new Stingray Special, The Rick would be my #1 player. I never had to adjust anything on those Rics; just plug & play and have fun! For me though, the Stingray is home :)
 
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Has anyone seen this yet? Available for pre-order. I think it's the most beautiful instrument I have ever seen. I've been considering buying a Ric and now I have GAS worse than any other time in my life. Figured maple body (WOW!), single truss-rod, toaster in the neck spot, V2 bridge and checkerboard binding. At nearly $3k though, I may just have to settle on a run-of-the-mill 4003. This is from wildwoodguitars.com

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Is this a good price assuming good condition?

I would say that's a fair price, how old is it? Play nice? You can get a new 4003S for probably only 50 bucks more and the bridges aren't that bad, don't let people scare you. For me dual truss rods are a plus. I take that silly cover off first thing any Ric I buy, takes about ten minutes to do.


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Agree also about the fretboard. The older 4001's that have been through heck might have a low or high fret here and there, but I was always really pleased by how flat the fingerboards were on my 4003's. You can really set them up with a low action, plus or minus how good the fretwork is on that particular bass. Mine were always really good, though.

And the baseball bat kind of feel to the neck is offset by the 33" scale which makes it a little to play overall.

As for the tone, my suggestion would be to get a relatively new 4003 that has the "vintage" switch on the bridge PU. Part of what broke my arms gigging with my 4001 was that capacitor that cuts out all the lows. I just instinctively hammered on the thing so hard to get lows out of it and that's what caused all the cortisone shots and such.

I'm just real slow, so I didn't learn about the capacitor until long after I quit playing rickenbackers on gigs. But you can clearly hear when it's not in the circuit that you have a lot more power out of the rear PU...

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They took out the cap in 1984, they didn't have one at all until they put the push pull control in about 10 years ago. I agree, the cap sucks the life out of them.
 
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It's a polarizing love/hate instrument for some people. I got a used 4001 for my only bass when in high school and loved it and about 12 years ago got a new 4003 that I really enjoy. The ergonomics never was an issue for me.

I played a Pbass for 10 years before switching to a Ric. I’m still playing it over 40 years later. In those 40 years, I can only recall adjusting the neck twice and have only adjusted the bridge once before switching to a Hipshot. The Ric only took me a few weeks to get used to and it feels perfect every time I strap it on. The workmanship on m two Rics are outstanding and they still look good after hundreds of gigs. I wish Rickenbacker would give me a reason to buy another bass from them with updated features like active electronics and different cosmetics
 
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Has anyone seen this yet? Available for pre-order. I think it's the most beautiful instrument I have ever seen. I've been considering buying a Ric and now I have GAS worse than any other time in my life. Figured maple body (WOW!), single truss-rod, toaster in the neck spot, V2 bridge and checkerboard binding. At nearly $3k though, I may just have to settle on a run-of-the-mill 4003. This is from wildwoodguitars.com

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I preordered one a few weeks ago from Bruce at Wildwood. Hopefully I'll be hearing from him in the next week or so. Just give them a call, the price is less than listed on the website.
 
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Has anyone seen this yet? Available for pre-order. I think it's the most beautiful instrument I have ever seen. I've been considering buying a Ric and now I have GAS worse than any other time in my life. Figured maple body (WOW!), single truss-rod, toaster in the neck spot, V2 bridge and checkerboard binding. At nearly $3k though, I may just have to settle on a run-of-the-mill 4003. This is from wildwoodguitars.com

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How do you know they have single truss rids? That is not a plus for me.