Country and Western

[Rib 13]

Modern country music is rock music sung with an accent. .

and a fiddle thrown in for good measure....also, the difference between a violin and a fiddle is one has a case (the other has a Crown Royal bag thrown over it)

 

[badinage]

It's best to just enjoy music without the labels. Whatever you think is "traditional" or of a certain genre, if you just go back a step further you realize there is more to it.
It's like food. You could spend time arguing that New York style pizza isn't Italian food and that Pizza Margherita is closer to the Italian origin. But then tomatoes didn't become part of Italian cuisine until the late 17th century. If you go back far enough none of us would recognize Italian food or Celtic music or anything else.

And people who limit their tastes would be as silly as someone spending their food-appreciation time declaring that "I EAT ITALIAN FOOD AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS DUMB !!" That just makes you a rabid fan of a uniform, not a student of an art and discipline.

 

[mcnach]

Do you believe country music is the true Celtic music of the modern world?

 

[DirtDog]

Do you believe country music is the true Celtic music of the modern world?

Who are your favorite artists?

I think you can draw a faint line between the two…involving English/Scottish/Irish folk music, Appalachian folk music, bluegrass and the like.

If you listen to Jerry Douglas’ work, the line is less faint.

but a 1:1 replacement/evolution whatever? No. Too many other influences along the path and across the years.

 

[Lesfunk]

Favorite country album:




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piss up a rope……. Classic

 

[shawshank72]

Anything by this man gets my attention.

 

[dalkowski]

 

[ElectroVibe]

Seriously now:

Can I just throw this into the mix about now; the central hyporthesis of the documentary "Rumble: The Indians Who Rocked the World".

Also, very, very few of the most talented of us are talented enough in the ways necessary to create new genres of music. And even including those people who are all of us are ultimately influenced by, and consequently appropriate, little bits and pieces from the genres we like and...

Yes. I don't know if I would say that the unique musicians are better than those who prefer to perform written music.

But I do think country and rock performers seem more interested in writing their own.

 

[yodedude2]

Do you believe country music is the true Celtic music of the modern world?

of course not. it would be unintelligent to do so.

Who are your favorite artists?

musically? at the moment: esperanza spalding, pat metheny, michael league, john zorn

 

[dbsfgyd1]

Do you believe country music is the true Celtic music of the modern world?

Who are your favorite artists?

Do you believe country music is the true Celtic music of the modern world?

Who are your favorite artists?

Bob Wills. I always preferred the western part of the equation….

Honorable mention: Asleep at the Wheel. About as close Bob Wills as you can get.

 

[yodedude2]

Bob Wills. I always preferred the western part of the equation….

Honorable mention: Asleep at the Wheel. About as close Bob Wills as you can get.

those cats can swing. there is an 'austin city limits' retrospective on 'asleep at the wheel' out there somewhere. it's awesome to see and hear the musicianship ray benson assembled and presented through the decades.

 

[ElectroVibe]

those cats can swing. there is an 'austin city limits' retrospective on 'asleep at the wheel' out there somewhere. it's awesome to see and hear the musicianship ray benson assembled and presented through the decades.

That is a great episode of Austin City Limits.

 

[Paul New]

I mentioned southern rock earlier, but I think it also evolved into country rock like the (later) Byrds and eventually the Eagles.

Wow. you are waaay off. Birds, Eagles, New Riders, Poco etc country rock is a complete different lineage and predates "southern rock". "Southern Rock" is terminology some critic came up with to describe the Allman brothers, and the labels picked up on it to use for marketing. The Allman Brothers didn't like the term and said if anything they were a Blues Band.

 

[Paul New]

Last post tonight: many people don’t know this, but the 4- string banjo, which was the tenor rhythm instrument of early Jazz, was heard and loved by Irish immigrants to America. It was supplanted by the guitar with the advent of amplification. But, it lived on.

Those Irish folks adapted it and now we call one version the Irish tenor banjo. It’s tuned in fifths. It rode the wave of cultural interchange back across the Atlantic and had a profound effect on the Irish music scene, and is now just as “Irish” as the harp, the pipes, and the whistle.

The most famous player was Barney McKenna. I like listening to his student and friend, Gerry O’Connor.

It's the same tenor banjo, we just put different strings on it.

 

[ElectroVibe]

I was at a house the other day where some people were watching Celtic Women special on PBS. Now I know that doesn't represent the genre, but I do think that is what a lot of people think of now when they hear the word, is something like soft background music for sewing circles.

But I actually picture a band like Creedence Clearwater Revival who combined styles, even though they don't sound anything like what has been discussed so far.

 

[tb-player]

I saw the thread title and came looking to see how quick someone would post this. #4! Nice job!

Also, Morgan Wade is someone I’ve been listening to a lot recently. And I don’t really even like country music. But she’s really good.

 

[klejst]

Unless it's like a country group with Celtic influence I guess, however no I do not believe in general country music directly equals some form of Celtic music...

 

[FilterFunk]

It bothers me that Boston Celtics pronounce the word incorrectly.

By the way, everyone in this thread probably already knows, but just in case: KELL-tick is the adjective used to refer to the culture; CELL-ticks is the Boston basketball team.

And, technically speaking, shouldn't it be the Boston "Celts," pronounced "Kelts"?

Yeah, I know...I'm overthinking it...

 

[GretschWretch]

No, we don't. You're just speaking the wrong type of English.

The difference is this. You Nor'easters speak so rapidly we Southrons have to slow you down so we can understand what you are saying. We, on the other hand, speak so slowly that you guys have to pack a bag lunch so you won't starve to death before we have finished our sentence.

(I know whereof I speak. Sophomore year of college I took potluck on a dorm roommate and drew a guy from the Bed-Stuy neighborhood in Brooklyn. He got to the room first, and when I entered he leaped off his bed, offered his hand, and introduced himself. I had to get him to repeat five times before he slowed enough I could make out his words.

I had another college mate, from Louisiana, who spoke so slowly it would take forty-five minutes for him to place his order at McDonald's.)

 

[GretschWretch]

Now I'm getting confused. Is that the football team or the music?

You are confused. The Celtics are a professional basketball team.