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Craigslist Ad Your band management issues solved

#21
Similar to the CL ad bashing thread from yesterday, what's the problem with the ad?

Roland GR 88 said:
He was.....we spent our last $275.00 on a 'band consultant' back then.
He told us to dress better and play more popular songs.

Genius.
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Shocking. That's word for word what half of the ad bashers in this thread would tell you.

RustyAxe said:
My grandson is nearly 20 years old ... and I sure wouldn't take advice from him ... about anything. ;)
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You know you raised one half of the people that raised him, right?
 
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Not that it matters, but I couldn't tell from the ad whether this person is a male or a female, and yet most of the posts in this thread say "this guy" or "him". How do we know it's a "him?" Maybe it's a "her."

But in either case, I couldn't help laughing after reading the ad. I just can't help chuckling at the adorable idea of a youngster thinking they know more than those of us who have been around the block 300 times. But come to think of it, when I was 20, I had myself convinced that I knew everything and had all the answers. Now that I'm 62, the more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know! :thumbsup:
 
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GBBSbassist said:
Similar to the CL ad bashing thread from yesterday, what's the problem with the ad?



Shocking. That's word for word what half of the ad bashers in this thread would tell you.



You know you raised one half of the people that raised him, right?
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Why hire a consultant when you can get such great advice right here?
 
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SactoBass said:
Not that it matters, but I couldn't tell from the ad whether this person is a male or a female, and yet most of the posts in this thread say "this guy" or "him". How do we know it's a "him?" Maybe it's a "her."

But in either case, I couldn't help laughing after reading the ad. I just can't help chuckling at the adorable idea of a youngster thinking they know more than those of us who have been around the block 300 times. But come to think of it, when I was 20, I had myself convinced that I knew everything and had all the answers. Now that I'm 62, the more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know! :thumbsup:
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So if you know more, I'm guessing your band consultation business is doing better than his? Or do you just not want one?

gln1955 said:
Why hire a consultant when you can get such great advice right here?
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A fine point. Also, you're more likely to respect that advice because it's been given by someone who has played Smoke on the Water to an empty room more than forty times in their more than forty years of bass playing experience!
 
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WillOtter said:
I DO NOT CHARGE A LOT!!!!!
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Well, thank goodness for THAT!

So I wonder what this "consultant's" fee would be for saying to the over-emotional and out-of-control bandmembers:

"hey everyone.......take it easy.......have some dip."
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I was actually half serious in my initial post. Maybe there is a market for this. I mean I would never have thought I'd be paying for a lot of things that I pay for now (car repair, home improvement stuff) because I was able to do them myself, but I'd rather spend my time doing other things and I hire those out. Wouldn't everyone here rather spend their time playing as opposed to trying to improve your bands situation? Sometimes, you just say the heck with it, let's call a guy.
Yeah, his ad isn't exactly confidence inspiring but man if he gets to put in the work and make his monthly nut I know I'd rather have his day job than mine.

Personally I still wouldn't be calling him, though. It's too easy to just fire the drummer and move on.
 
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Kragnorak said:
on one hand, it seems silly to pay for advice; on another, it's kind of hilarious how much people pay life coaches and therapists for advice.
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Good point, Kragnorak! Hey...there are some people who shell out $20,000 just to become a member of a golf country club. I'm not a golfer, but I guess if we earn the money, we get to decide how we spend it on ourselves. I shelled out $23,500 for a brand new BMW motorcycle. I'm sure some folks would shake their heads over that. Different strokes! :thumbsup:
 
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GBBSbassist said:
So if you know more, I'm guessing your band consultation business is doing better than his? Or do you just not want one?



A fine point. Also, you're more likely to respect that advice because it's been given by someone who has played Smoke on the Water to an empty room more than forty times in their more than forty years of bass playing experience!
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I think you should take him up on his services and let us know how it goes. Personally, I'm not taking band advice from a 20 year old, but your mileage may vary. Of course, age is the least of the reasons this concept is likely to fail. First, you need an entire band that a) agrees they have a problem, b) and agrees on what that problem is, c) agrees to allow a stranger to draft solutions, and d) is willing to pay you for it.

That's before you deal with the logistics of actually observing the group dynamic, determining the actual issues, creating an action plan, and then selling the band on both your conclusions and next steps.

The idea might work if a label (or similar entity in a position of authority) made it a requirement of continued association or something, but otherwise there's little to no shot. How many places have you worked where the employees were glad that consultants were brought in (and would have approved the expense)?
 
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SactoBass said:
Sig worthy! :thumbsup:
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Thanks. In the bad old days I used to be in sales. The other good one was, better to spend more than you planned than less than you should. I'm too poor to buy cheap things, I can't afford to buy the cheap one AND the one I should have bought in the first place when the cheap one doesn't work. My favorite, although not really related is, "When all else fails, do it right."
 
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What this person is proposing is akin to a family therapist or conflict resolution professional. The people who do that sort of thing are trained for a few years with internships in real world situations. They know something about how to deal with difficult personalities and dysfunctional relationships. A trained therapist might take months to straighten out a broken family and it doesn't always work. The person with the ad has been in few dysfunctonal bands and thinks he has it figured out.
 
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Nev375 said:
I remember when I knew everything there was to know at 20 too.

This guy is adorable!
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Yeah dude, me too! Why is it that you know sooo much when you're young, but then have to start learning and listening to others as you get older? Brains sure have a messed up way of doing things.

But for real, 20 years old. So he's been in "numerous" bands. Let's say he joined his first band at sometime around 15/16. That's not very reasurring in any sense of the word. That's like getting parental advise from people without kids.
 
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