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Crazy8 and Crazy88

Not that this is a Crazy8 thread or anything, so I just won't mention I'm trying to rustle the gumption to build two J10Ls.

Some of those people on the fEARful threads get prickly about what can and can't be said. But since we're talking here about a Crazy cab series, the conversation is bound to bounce around into weird places. It's crazy, man.
 
Man-- to be playing bass at this time---we are lucky sob's. Every cab on that list is killin". They all sound great and are superlative in different ways.

I absolutely agree. I could come up with more pros than cons to buy any of them but for me the 20 on the bottom row won out. At one point or another over the last year I've considered pulling the trigger on all of them except the Barefaced because they're UK. Given my fickle nature I wouldn't be surprised if I ended up with one or two of them yet.

What's really cool is how great all the designers and builders are about sharing their knowledge.

It is a great time to be a bass player, but it would be a really great time to be a rich bass player.
 
They're saying different stuff now than even at NAMM. At NAMM I was told that they were releasing in the spring as a stand alone outboard unit. Now they say that they are releasing the OEM boards. I'll believe it when I see it. But I will see it.
 
Omitting the variable L-pad will save you some weight. I prefer my Crazy8 with the tweeter on full so the L-pad is effectively unused. Besides, it's trivial to control highs with external EQ. P.S. If you play acoustic bass, having a tweeter in the Crazy8 is a must.

I bought my Crazy8 without a tweet, and haven't missed it at all, with either DB or fretless 5-string electric. But, my hearing drops off like a rock above 12k, so take what I say about the range from 10k to 20k with a grain of salt. :)
 
My take on the tweet is this. I likely have really restricted hearing in the upper range too. (why should I have it tested and get depressed?)When I play a C8 I don't feel the need for the tweet at all. I just sold one where he wanted an on/off switch for the tweet. When I'm playing with the tweet and then turn it off I'm like "wow, there is something missing". But that's living room listening. Maybe it would be lost on the gig. Played a loud gig on upright with the 88. I was very happy.
 
JimmyM said:
Mesa pays Paul McCartney to play discontinued amps?

Hah! There are few if any people who get paid to endorse music gear, you just get the stuff for free. Heck, I get most of my gear for free. I now pay for my own cabs because they're the ones I want and you cant get em free:)
 
Hah! There are few if any people who get paid to endorse music gear, you just get the stuff for free. Heck, I get most of my gear for free. I now pay for my own cabs because they're the ones I want and you cant get em free:)
You'll be able to get them for free eventually ;)

Well as we've seen, McCartney's not above taking some free gear, but if I were Randall Smith and had McCartney as an official endorser, I'd rather he play gear I was currently selling. So for that reason alone, I don't think he has any deal with Mesa other than they gave him a few amps 20 years ago. He never appears in any ads for any companies whose gear he uses. If he has a deal with any company, he's keeping it very well hidden.

So it's my opinion that Paul McCartney is playing Mesa gear and not Crazy 88's because he likes his gear the way it is ;) No disrespect to the Crazy 88 intended, of course...looks pretty sweet to me.
 
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Please keep in mind I made this list for my own decision making so I could compare pros and cons. Some of the info was readily available and some was scraped from various sources and my shaky memory. I don't want to be unfair to anyone so please correct me if I'm wrong.

All of our cabinets ship directly from our factory in Cincinnati, OH. We are looking at raising the price on the ML112 to $675, in the very near future to reflect price increases in our neo drivers, which are up about 40% compared with what we paid a year ago.
 
All of our cabinets ship directly from our factory in Cincinnati, OH. We are looking at raising the price on the ML112 to $675, in the very near future to reflect price increases in our neo drivers, which are up about 40% compared with what we paid a year ago.

Apparently last night my laptop hard drive took a nose dive so the spreadsheet is MIA at the moment. Hopefully it will be recovered, but if not I'll start anew.

I was seriously gassing for 2 ML112's when kjung described them as an AE210 only more. But due to many circumstances I decided to stick with what I had. Thanks.
 
Comparing custom built cabs to 99% of the commercially built stuff is silly, because the commercial stuff doesn't provide the required data to make a valid comparison. One should be comparing custom built to custom built, where you can actually know how much displacement and sensitivity you're getting per dollar spent.

I don't disagree with your premise, and I like having data to help me make informed decisions. But, the approach you prescribe will be irrelevant to the vast majority of bass players who compare cabs with their ears, not data, irrespective of whether the cabs in question are commercially available or custom.
 
I don't disagree with your premise, and I like having data to help me make informed decisions. But, the approach you prescribe will be irrelevant to the vast majority of bass players who compare cabs with their ears, not data, irrespective of whether the cabs in question are commercially available or custom.
The vast majority of bass players have no opportunity to try more than a few of the choices available to them, let alone all. I'd venture that most have never tried the cab they bought before making their purchase. How did their ears help them?
 
The vast majority of bass players have no opportunity to try more than a few of the choices available to them, let alone all. I'd venture that most have never tried the cab they bought before making their purchase. How did their ears help them?

Definitely true. I can think of two cabinets that I purchased based on the very non-scientific spec of "I like the builder in email exchanges".
 
The vast majority of bass players have no opportunity to try more than a few of the choices available to them, let alone all. I'd venture that most have never tried the cab they bought before making their purchase. How did their ears help them?

I dont disagree with this at all. In the town that I live in you dont get a lot of choices as far as show room stuff. There are a few Mesa's, a few GK's, a few Ampegs, and a few Acoustic's. The local GC doesnt even have an SVT-CL/VR in the show room. They will order you one, but you gotta buy it just to try it.
 

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