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CreativeAudioLabs Redeemer Circuit. WOW!!!

#86
I'm having my P-bass "Redeemed". It has the S-1 switch and I swapped the tone knob for a Stellartone. Will be including a bypass switch for the Redeemer. I'll let you know how it turns out. Should be finished this weekend or early next week.
 
#87
cybersnyder said:
I'm having my P-bass "Redeemed". It has the S-1 switch and I swapped the tone knob for a Stellartone. Will be including a bypass switch for the Redeemer. I'll let you know how it turns out. Should be finished this weekend or early next week.
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Sounds cool... you ever think about replacing the volume pot with one that can bypass the pot when full-on? You could do this with either a push-pull, or with a pot from Fender or CTS (I think) that is notched at the end.

Takes another potentiometer out of the signal path (like the Stellartone... which I'd love to hear about, seems very interesting).
 
#88
mgmadian said:
Sounds cool... you ever think about replacing the volume pot with one that can bypass the pot when full-on? You could do this with either a push-pull, or with a pot from Fender or CTS (I think) that is notched at the end.

Takes another potentiometer out of the signal path (like the Stellartone... which I'd love to hear about, seems very interesting).
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Right now the S-1 series/parallel switch is part of the volume knob, so I doubt I'll do that. I'll try to put together some sound clips of everything in action when I get the bass back.
 
#89
Pete skjold said:
I just got the email for the new pricing myself and I have to say , for 50.00 , if you want something that will totally improve and preserve the tone of your passive bass then this is your wake up call .
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Just a heads-up: the Redeemer is currently listed on a well known auction site and you can use the live.com discount or any other coupons you might have to reduce the price a bit more. I'll post a review in a week or two when I get some time in on the one I have coming.
 
#90
PilbaraBass said:
also I feel that I can now divulge that Pete Skjold is so sold on the Redeemer that he offered to send me one free-of-charge to try out...that's conviction folks...thanks Pete (even though I didn't take him up on the offer)
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Same here, and I have to admit the offer made me shut up for a bit :) while I decided whether I had time for this project. Now that the price has come down so much, I will probably just buy one as soon as I do have time for the project (right now I'm buried under final exams and a day job and troubleshooting another brand's preamp that is causing me endless problems).
 
#92
Well, I got my bass back and it now Redeemed. There is a slight difference but not much. I think I still have a Monster Bass cable around somewhere. I'll see if I can hear any difference with it since it's a cable that's known to lose it's top end. But I definitely do not share the OP's rave praises of the Redeemer. But now I have a completely tricked out Pbass. S-1 switch, Stellartone tone control and a Redeemer buffer with on/off switch. And yes, the Redeemer does continue to work if the battery is dead, but there is a drop in volume. So it is doing something. I just don't hear it in my initial testing. If I have to strain to hear the difference, then maybe there isn't much difference for a bass. You can definitely hear a huge difference in the strat in the demo video on Creation Audio's website.

These are just initial impressions, so take it with a grain of salt.


Edit: Updated opinion post #99.
 
#95
cybersnyder said:
Well, I got my bass back and it now Redeemed. There is a slight difference but not much. I think I still have a Monster Bass cable around somewhere. I'll see if I can hear any difference with it since it's a cable that's known to lose it's top end. But I definitely do not share the OP's rave praises of the Redeemer. But now I have a completely tricked out Pbass. S-1 switch, Stellartone tone control and a Redeemer buffer with on/off switch. And yes, the Redeemer does continue to work if the battery is dead, but there is a drop in volume. So it is doing something. I just don't hear it in my initial testing. If I have to strain to hear the difference, then maybe there isn't much difference for a bass. You can definitely hear a huge difference in the strat in the demo video on Creation Audio's website.

These are just initial impressions, so take it with a grain of salt.
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The difference becomes greater depending on what you are using for a cable and what you are plugging the bass into . Try using it with some effects pedels in line or some other device . The fact that it doesn't change anything drastically is why I like it . But to each his own ,

Pete
 
#96
I bought a redeemer and have been testing it out. I put it in the box shown in the attachments so I could try it easily on different systems and do some A/B testing. I do not have golden ears, so keep that in mind :p

I tested the redeemer in my normal setup, bass->active DI->mixer->headphones, plugged straight into the mixer (no DI), and into my iAMP500C. I tested mainly with a P bass with flats but I tried some other basses too.

The redeemer has a bit of a volume boost, so it is hard to A/B it. There was a slight difference in sound, but that could be just because of the boost.

I don't have a lot of experience with active basses, but I have found they tend to give a slightly hollow sound to basses with flats. The redeemer did not do this. It was very flat to my ears. So don't ask for sound clips, you won't tell the difference with 128k mp3s.

The redeemer worked as expected in all situations. Without the DI, a passive bass loses some highs in the mixer. The redeemer made the DI unnecessary. I also ran it though 45' of cable with no noticeable loss of highs.

As a bonus, with a passive bass you no longer have the treble bleed problem.

It works without a battery but there is a noticeable attenuation. With a very dead battery (measured 1.6V no load), I got distortion.

So will I be installing the redeemer in one of my basses? Probably not. I don't really need a buffer and I don't want to deal with the battery.

Would I recommend the redeemer? I would. It provides a very clean buffer for a low price. And it can be run without a battery if required.
 

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#98
The boost you are hearing is the redeemer restoring the basses original output , the gain doesn't come from the redeemer itself . If you were to plug the bass into a heavily loading input of an amp and a/b the redeemer in and out you would get the impression of gain ( when the redeemer is functioning ) when what you are hearing is the loss of gain when the redeemer isn't on .

If there is barely any loading happening between your cable , amp , pedels or whatever , you won't hear a drastic difference . Which means your set-up is good . But that is not usually the case . Hence what the redeemer does .

Pete
 
#99
I took Pete's advice and tried 6 effects and a Monster Cable for bass. Very, very noticeable difference between Redeemer / no Redeemer. Without sounds dull. With sounds just like using a very short cable into your amp. So yes, depending on what you plug into, the Redeemer is very much worth the price. And I paid the original $125. Any future passive bass that I own will have a Redeemer -- as long as I don't mind cutting it up to install it or have the room in a control cavity. Good call on using them in Skjold basses.

So, I retract my previous shoulder shrug and give the Redeemer a big thumbs up.
 

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