Cross-Over (Crossover or Splitter) pedals

[XLunacy]

What did you mean by that?

I mean: did you speak about that prototype or about the previous version (which is currently "out of stock")?

THX

The prototype: I was referring to the two sets of switches where you can select "Xover" or "full range", for both "FX send" and "Clean Blend".
I believe you can get 4 distinct behaviours, by choosing what part of the signal gets sent to the FX loop, what part of the signal can be blended back, and then when positioned on the "Xover" setting, choose between highs and lows, which makes 6 different ways of setting it. Very cool!

 

[31HZ]

It has just come to my attention that there's a new crossover pedal on the market.

Has anyone tried the Great Eastern FX "XO" Variable Crossover?

https://www.greateasternfx.com/product-page/xo

 

[sunbeast]

It has just come to my attention that there's a new crossover pedal on the market.

Has anyone tried the Great Eastern FX "XO" Variable Crossover?

https://www.greateasternfx.com/product-page/xo

That thing looks great!

 

[IronSpatula]

It has just come to my attention that there's a new crossover pedal on the market.

Has anyone tried the Great Eastern FX "XO" Variable Crossover?

https://www.greateasternfx.com/product-page/xo

 

[sunbeast]

It has just come to my attention that there's a new crossover pedal on the market.

Has anyone tried the Great Eastern FX "XO" Variable Crossover?

https://www.greateasternfx.com/product-page/xo

The only thing I will add is that I've found having separate frequency controls for each loop to be pretty useful in my experiments, though apart from missing that this option looks nice

 

[Zbysek]

The only thing I will add is that I've found having separate frequency controls for each loop to be pretty useful in my experiments

Can you elaborate, please? What do you find useful about having separate frequency controls?

 

[sunbeast]

Can you elaborate, please? What do you find useful about having separate frequency controls?

Depending on the slope of the roll-off on each side there can be either too much or too little roll-off in frequencies that can either create a hump or a scoop. Sometimes either of those is desirable too. You also never know how effects will respond to different frequency ranges or how they'll mix together. For all these reasons it's nice to be able to move things around by ear- this is why the Omnilooper won out for me. I often find I'm setting the frequency dials to overlap more than I might expect

 

[Zbysek]

Depending on the slope of the roll-off on each side there can be either too much or too little roll-off in frequencies that can either create a hump or a scoop. Sometimes either of those is desirable too. You also never know how effects will respond to different frequency ranges or how they'll mix together. For all these reasons it's nice to be able to move things around by ear- this is why the Omnilooper won out for me. I often find I'm setting the frequency dials to overlap more than I might expect

Thank you

 

[growlinscythe]

Salute fellow Crossover users

anyone else using the Source Audio EQ2 to split their signal and use it as a crossover at the same time?

I find it to be working great and allowing immense fine tuning with the Neuro App!

 

[Derek Williams]

Salute fellow Crossover users

anyone else using the Source Audio EQ2 to split their signal and use it as a crossover at the same time?

I find it to be working great and allowing immense fine tuning with the Neuro App!

I have previously used an Ultrawave to split and a EQ2 to merge. Works great, and the phase inversion on the EQ2 is very handy.

 

[growlinscythe]

I have previously used an Ultrawave to split and a EQ2 to merge. Works great, and the phase inversion on the EQ2 is very handy.

I kinda did the same but simpler with an LS-2 to merge (dont like the EQ post my fx, especially the big muffs dont handle that well), but since I go into two amp heads the merging became very optional (speak: only necessary for the rare out of house small rig jams)

 

[IronSpatula]

Salute fellow Crossover users

anyone else using the Source Audio EQ2 to split their signal and use it as a crossover at the same time?

I find it to be working great and allowing immense fine tuning with the Neuro App!

That's really cool! Is it a true crossover or LPF/HPF split, or just an approximation via EQ?

I knew the Atlas in multi band mode could be used for this purpose and was contemplating making it the heart of a MIDI-capable crossover rig, but maybe the EQ2 would be a better choice?

 

[growlinscythe]

That's really cool! Is it a true crossover or LPF/HPF split, or just an approximation via EQ?

I knew the Atlas in multi band mode could be used for this purpose and was contemplating making it the heart of a MIDI-capable crossover rig, but maybe the EQ2 would be a better choice?

It's an approximation via EQ, but I really do like the flexibility that comes with it -
i.e.:
I love how my russian big muff sounds if it distorts the full spectrum (would sound thin af if it were going through an actual crossover), but there is just too much clank going on from the clean amp.
So my setting on the EQ2 for this pedal is basically HPF/nothing instead of a crossover.
Then I also have other parts and sounds that do work really well, where I use it as close as possible to be a true crossover, the presets really do come in very handy!

(I always have a HPF @ ~30hz & a LPF ~10-12khz on both channels, just to clean up the sonic space and stay out of vocal/guitar territory.)

I just never had a chance to compare it to a true crossover, would be curious to know what that sounds like!

 

[sunbeast]

It's an approximation via EQ, but I really do like the flexibility that comes with it -
i.e.:
I love how my russian big muff sounds if it distorts the full spectrum (would sound thin af if it were going through an actual crossover), but there is just too much clank going on from the clean amp.
So my setting on the EQ2 for this pedal is basically HPF/nothing instead of a crossover.
Then I also have other parts and sounds that do work really well, where I use it as close as possible to be a true crossover, the presets really do come in very handy!

(I always have a HPF @ ~30hz & a LPF ~10-12khz on both channels, just to clean up the sonic space and stay out of vocal/guitar territory.)

I just never had a chance to compare it to a true crossover, would be curious to know what that sounds like!

A crossover in practice is just multiple pass filters (in this case high-pass and low-pass) on different paths, so the EQ2 should be capable of this nicely!

 

[growlinscythe]

A crossover in practice is just multiple pass filters (in this case high-pass and low-pass) on different paths, so the EQ2 should be capable of this nicely!

Yes, with a but:

the built in HPF only goes up to 250hz, everything above is a bit of a workaround to get a nice eq curve - the LPF however goes as low as you want. dont ask me why lmao

 

[Hutzbordello]

Does anyone have experience with both introducing clean signal with a boss ls-2 vs using a crossover eq? Could you go into the advantages and disadvantages of both approaches?

Fwiw, this is my signal chain.
Boss LS-2 --> Life Pedal (in LS2 loop) --> DCX Bass --> GEB-7 --> TU-2

Sorry if that's been covered elsewhere!

 

[johnk_10]

i personally prefer a crossover over a blend by a lot.

 

[Jett Litt]

Same.
A crossover allows you to keep the frequencies from overlapping and interfering with each other. Resulting in a much more clear and controlled final product.

 

[Hutzbordello]

Same.
A crossover allows you to keep the frequencies from overlapping and interfering with each other. Resulting in a much more clear and controlled final product.

Succinct! Appreciate the response

 

[millahh]

It has just come to my attention that there's a new crossover pedal on the market.

Has anyone tried the Great Eastern FX "XO" Variable Crossover?

https://www.greateasternfx.com/product-page/xo

Mine just arrived yesterday, I only got about five minutes with it, just enough to get it roughly hooked up and verify that it works. Got a Rat (specifically a 1312) and a Green Russian in the loop at the moment. I'll report back in a couple of days.