Curt Mangan Monel Strings in Prime Number Gauges

[trothwell]

Bass Guitar - Monel Bass - Curt Mangan Fusion Matched Guitar Strings

Adding a quote from the website:

"It is believed that the use of joining prime number string gauges can enhance harmonic ratios and possibly even intonation."

While I'm a big fan of prime numbers (who isn't?), I have never heard this before. Thoughts?

 

[bholder]

Sounds like pure weapons-grade sphinctronium to me (refined from the raw buttnuggetite ore)...

 

[HaphAsSard]

Thoughts?

Gauges (assuming tolerances are super-tight, which remains to be seen) are the outside, not the essence: what counts is internal construction. A .085" may be differ substantially from another, in core-to-wrap ratio and other factors.

But, most importantly: prime numbers...of what? These primes are taken from the decimal (centesimal) part of a measurement in inches: re-measure in millimetres and primes go out the window.

This is like the nonsense about 432 Hz being allegedly linked to the vibrational Invalid Link Removed / universe / my butt.
As noted in the link, amongst other, perhaps more egregious objections, here too we have a measurement-related optical illusion. Namely, "Hertz" = cycles per *second*, and how long the "second" lasts is a totally arbitrary unit of time from the point of view of an indifferent universe: IIRC, one founded on Chaldean astronomy and base-12 arithmetics, in turn originally developed from the number of finger bones we happen to have (minus the thumb, which was used to touch them during calculations).

tl;dr - what bholder said.

 

[Richard Lindsey]

Bass Guitar - Monel Bass - Curt Mangan Fusion Matched Guitar Strings

Adding a quote from the website:

"It is believed that the use of joining prime number string gauges can enhance harmonic ratios and possibly even intonation."

While I'm a big fan of prime numbers (who isn't?), I have never heard this before. Thoughts?

Absurd.

 

[michael_t]

"It is believed that the use of joining prime number string gauges can enhance harmonic ratios and possibly even intonation."

While I'm a big fan of prime numbers (who isn't?), I have never heard this before. Thoughts?

"Prime number string gauges" = Prime example of BS marketing??

 

[Ricky Rioli]

I want these in a 43–59–79–103 set, as I like my prime numbers to have balanced tension.

 

[Chrisk-K]

Another absurdity of human beings

 

[MultiScaleMale]

It really makes about as much sense as the 0.15 or 0.20 difference in string diameters which has pretty much become the standard.

 

[micguy]

I kinda liked the gauges, until I looked up the density of Monel. It’s more dense than steel, which I think disqualifies these as potential strings for me.

I do applaud the idea of getting away from .005” multiples - especially at the lower end of string gauges, where the tension jumps are pretty big. I’d love a good .038” G string.

If we want to use math to derive string gauges, the proper way to do it is a geometric progression - a musical fourth is a ratio of 1.33 in frequency, and it turns out (there’s a square and a square root in the math that cancel) that’s also the diameter ratio that makes sense for a balanced tension string set. A 40 G matches a 53 D in tension, for example. That step is the one that’s most out of whack in a typical arithmetic progression (add 20 per string) 40-60-80-100 set

 

[matante]

It really makes about as much sense as the 0.15 or 0.20 difference in string diameters which has pretty much become the standard.

You're saying a string that is nominally an .085 could actually be a .065? And that's a standard variation???

 

[MultiScaleMale]

You're saying a string that is nominally an .085 could actually be a .065? And that's a standard variation???

No, I mean a set is typically in some differences of fives or tens because we like our base ten number system.

 

[matante]

No, I mean a set is typically in some differences of fives or tens because we like our base ten number system.

Oh. OK. It should be noted that often the gauges on the package are nominal. The famous Rotosound set used to be labeled something like 46-63-80-102 and it's now labeled as 45-65-80-105 but people here who say they've measured the strings say they're still the same as the old diameters.

 

[bobdabilder]

Need to look at this one under a sphinctroscope. Closely.

Sounds like pure weapons-grade sphinctronium to me (refined from the raw buttnuggetite ore)...

 

[flojob]

Sounds like the folks writing fender and Nordstrom ad copy are moonlighting

 

[KenD]

About as credible as his "Fusion Matched" schtick.

 

[Tim Skaggs]

It might not be the silliest thing I’ve ever heard, but it’s in the top five.

 

[Riff Ranger]

Too bad they’re spouting this nonsense, because they do make good strings. I’ve had nickel rounds from them on both basses and guitars, and their quality (and customer service) really should speak for themselves. Also: I selected my own gauges when ordering from them, choosing my gauges by consulting available string tension calculators

 

[jmlee]

As a bassist with a first class honours degree in mathematics, let me add this Sherman Potterism: Horse hockey!

 

[michael_t]

Sherman Potterism: Horse hockey!

Good ol' Col. Potter!

 

[Killing Floor]

Prime filet with homemade chimichurri.