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Dang Noisy Jaguar!!!

#62
on a side note, i wanted to also point out , this bass has a terrible mismatch in the wood pieces used.

its 3 piece alder, but 2 pieces are darker then the one they use on the top 1/3 of the body. on the side where the e string is. i already wrote to fender on this.... i want a new body. ( since the bass is see thru the grain in sunburst, its way way obvious.)
 
#63
alangoldstein said:
on a side note, i wanted to also point out , this bass has a terrible mismatch in the wood pieces used.

its 3 piece alder, but 2 pieces are darker then the one they use on the top 1/3 of the body. on the side where the e string is. i already wrote to fender on this.... i want a new body. ( since the bass is see thru the grain in sunburst, its way way obvious.)
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If I was in your situation, I would just send the whole thing back to Fender. Tell them it is noisy and has mismatched wood. They will probably do a better job fixing it... also, no sense in shielding cavities that are going to go back to Fender anyway.


Sounds like you may have a "monday morning" bass.
 
#64
alangoldstein said:
so if i use a wire ( 3 ways ) and connect it to every chrome cavity cover.... would that do it?
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Probably. Here is a pic here where someone simply put a small piece of copper tape in between cavities:
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The copper tape contacts the bottom of the pickguard (which is conductive) and this seems to solve the problem for most people.

Here is the thread about it.

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314955&highlight=noisy+jaguar&page=2
 
#71
thakns guys. i just sent the bass back to bass central. its a shame cuz it was the bass and color i wanted.

but the noise and mismatching woods... no good. btw if you want to post the pix i can email you the mismatching wood pix. i dont know how to post pix here, or if i have to be a member of tb ( with credit card )

anyway, i hope beaver / bass central comes thru for me and sends me the classic 70's jazz instead in exchange... he didnt have one in 3ts, so i picked black. i think it will look good with a pearloid pickguard.
will match the block inlays.

ill post the results soon. thanks guys.
 
#72
First off, hi all, this is actually my first post on here, secondly, sorry for resurrecting an old thread but I have a question about the jag.

I recently picked up a black jag, after searching for months for one at a reasonable price. I guess I got lucky with mine as it seemed pretty silent in active mode, except when it's in active mode with the master tone open full and the treble wheel open full also. Rolling either of them back seems to eliminate the hum completely.

I was wondering if this is normal?

Also, I should mention that when I touch the strings/brudge/metal control plates the humming stops, as is expected. I have also added copper tape to the inside as recommended on here but the humming still remains when both master tone and treble wheel set to full

Thanks in advance
 
#73
insomniacstyle said:
First off, hi all, this is actually my first post on here, secondly, sorry for resurrecting an old thread but I have a question about the jag.

I recently picked up a black jag, after searching for months for one at a reasonable price. I guess I got lucky with mine as it seemed pretty silent in active mode, except when it's in active mode with the master tone open full and the treble wheel open full also. Rolling either of them back seems to eliminate the hum completely.

I was wondering if this is normal?

Also, I should mention that when I touch the strings/brudge/metal control plates the humming stops, as is expected. I have also added copper tape to the inside as recommended on here but the humming still remains when both master tone and treble wheel set to full

Thanks in advance
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Welcome TB!

It's hard to tell if "it's normal". It really depends on the amount of noise you find acceptable. What I find to be a "small amount" of noise, my guitar player finds unbearable.

Jag's make noise. No doubt about it. The stock pre-amp will take that noise and make it much more noticeable.

There are fixes (as you have already read in this thread).

I use an outboard preamp, so the on board pre on the Jag isn't used much. I use the Jag's pre during solos and when I want to get a little more bottom end on a few songs.

I plan on making some major modifications to my Jag in next year or so (stack volume knob, one for each pup, a new preamp, and a new bridge). However, the Jag is fine bass without any modification... barring the shielding issue.

Good luck with your Jag. Its a great bass... post a link to sound clip... I'd like to hear it.

G
 
#74
Just had a sort-of band practise ealier. It was just me and the drummer, hence, sort of practise. There was a small amount of noise. It wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be when plugged into a 100 watt 1x15 combo plus 4x12 extension cab. It was only really noticeable when it was dead silent, I don't think there should be any problems with it in a live setting. I'm not sure if the copper tape helped at all, as it was originally very quiet. Maybe I was just focussing on the hum a bit too much, I was playing with a little practise amp in my room when I first noticed it.

The reason why I brought it up was I am in a regularly gigging band and I bought it as a replacement for my Yamaha RBX270. As much as I love my old bass, it just didn't cut it tonewise. I have always been a fan of the Jazz bass tone but when I saw this I couldn't pass it up, especially for the price. I love the Jag, it took my a while to get used to the large headstock, it's considerably larger than that of my Yamaha, as is the body. I would describe myself as a very animated performer and it took a couple of gigs before I got truly familiar with the body style.

I love the active tone, but the treble wheel doesn't really seem to add as much top end as the bass wheel adds bottom end. Has any one else noticed this?

I personally wouldn't change any of the electrical components, not at this moment in time anyway. I love the sound it produces right now and suits my needs perfectly.

If I were to make any mods, I'd definitely change the tuners to Hipshot Ultralites, and the bridge to a 201, both to help with the neck dive. As an instrument, I think it is fine just the way it is. I also love that the strap buttons fit my Schaller strap locks perfectly, so I haven't had the need to buy another set of straplocks, or cover the top horn in duct tape like my other bass
 
#75
It seems like this thread is a bit old, but if anyone can help me it would be appreciated. My problem is the same as all of the other people posting here. My Jag buzzes when I am not touching it. I used ALUMINUM tape and i noticed a small difference, but when i have the mid or high turned up on my amp, or the treble turned up on the bass it is noticable. I like to record in studio a lot and this just makes the music sound terrible. I completley coated the insides with the tape using this as a guide:
Jag Bass project :: 1/4" MDF template made from original pickguard picture by ronh95 - Photobucket

My first question. I dont know much about wiring, is there a major difference in Copper and Aluminum tape besides the obvious mineral difference?
Second there was a piece of foam under the small circuit above the PuP's, i didnt put any tape over this, would this make a difference?
Third Do I need to coat the backside of the Pickguard, it is already reflective so i assume it came with aluminum tape from the factory?

Thanks if anyone can help.

Besides that this is an awesome bass, great of excellent tones and playability. I can put it in the back of my car, drive 300 miles pull it out if the case, and its still in tune.
 
#76
Seriously, an $8.00 roll of copper tape from Stewart MacDonald and 15 minutes and your bass will be dead quiet. Get the copper tape, don't waste your time doing this half-way. Follow the instructions on the "Dang Noisy Jaguar" thread and you should be fine. It's not that difficult. You also need to make sure that every cavity is connected by copper tape. too. I didn't see that in the Photobucket link you sent. BTW, If you don't get the copper tape with the conductive adhesive on it you'll need to solder all the pieces of tape together.
 
#78
Is this "copper tape shielding" for subtle buzzes? My new Jag buzzes like a banshee. Turning on the preamp makes it three times worse, and it comes through even while I'm playing, with the buzzing being almost as loud as the notes I am hitting. Maybe I should just return it. I shouldn't have to fix anything having just bought it, it kind of angers me. Help?
 
#79
colbyAKAbobby said:
Is this "copper tape shielding" for subtle buzzes? My new Jag buzzes like a banshee. Turning on the preamp makes it three times worse, and it comes through even while I'm playing, with the buzzing being almost as loud as the notes I am hitting. Maybe I should just return it. I shouldn't have to fix anything having just bought it, it kind of angers me. Help?
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If it is buzzing as badly as you are saying here, then there is a defect and you should return it.

However, this bass has a bit of noise to it. It uses single coils and the on board preamp does not filter it out, it amplifies it. My 2008 Fender Jaguar is pretty quiet for a bass with single coils. However, I modded the hell out of mine by rewiring it so that each pup has independent volume controls. I added a phase switch and moved the jack to the side of the bass. After rewiring it, and shielding the bass, the normal single coil buzz/hum is still there. However, I don't find it objectionable and consider it part of the charm of the bass.
 

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