I didn't read the entire thread so I'm sorry if this has already been said, but you can fix that wiggle problem with a few wraps of black electrical tape around the end that inserts into your amp. Or try some of your other power cables to find a tighter fit since they vary a tiny bit, IME.
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Detachable power cords... Why?
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This has a familiar look. Although mine is a 210, it also has the Velcro retaining strips--PLUS!On another topic, I think there was one combo from Ampeg, the OLD Ampeg BA-115 1x15 Combo. Not the new one but the version before. You can even tuck away the cable. Maybe something for you?
However, the attachment location shoots the power cord straight out the back--NEGATIVE! This meant whenever it rode in my trunk, it would have to sit on its face in order to fit, leaving the ports directed upwards to catch anything that fell in the vicinity(that's another story).
The newest combo has detachable cord. =]
From my perspective, the detachable gives me more, and better, options.
Detachable chord, see there, even Ampeg crept to the cross, finally.
As for "sit on its face" when transporting. It's - quite contrary to popular belief - THE way to transport ANY speaker cabinets, especially huge and heavy bass cabinets! Please, keep on doing that! Don't know how the neo things fare well or not, but regular ones if they weigh a ton. OR face up! Now, that one made you scratch your head didn't it?
Hint: gravity pulls and pushes!
As for "sit on its face" when transporting. It's - quite contrary to popular belief - THE way to transport ANY speaker cabinets, especially huge and heavy bass cabinets! Please, keep on doing that! Don't know how the neo things fare well or not, but regular ones if they weigh a ton. OR face up! Now, that one made you scratch your head didn't it?
Hint: gravity pulls and pushes!
Now, I give this tip to everyone. But, rather than starting a new thread, this is related to one of the many things of WHY you should ALWAYS have a detachable power chord. Whenever having to stack, or load your trunk, van or any other vehicle you decided to transport your gear. Especially heavy bass speakers. From 12" and up. Regular ceramic, or alnico.
It's better to either turn your speakers/combo either face down or face up because:
1. Gravitational pull/push when driving over ANY light bump in the road.
2. The magnet in the cone/cones are used to moving in and out of the center of the cone anyway, when having sound. It's best to leave them in that floating condition, so that they move accordingly whenever a gravitational pull/push is exerted to them. They will move up or down but still in the middle of the cone!
3. If you transport them standing up, just as they were set on a stage, you exert gravitational pull/push to the cone from the side/side of the magnet, making them to want to move up/down instead of in/out. They have no slack space to do this at all, so in the long run, the magnet will cause the whole speaker to sag, and the magnet will end up NOT being in the middle of the cone anymore. You will hear it first, it's like not tightening the screws to the spider in which the speaker is tightened to. In the end it will rip your cone, and you will have to have it reconed. It's not a long winded one. Real professional touring bands roadies loads their speakers in their flight cases with - actually - face up.
4. I've even heard that time/gravity does this to stationary subwoofers in large PA systems in clubs. Then the "technical in charge" person brings them out, goes into them and just turn them around. Unscrew all screws and turn on the speaker "spider" a half turn. Then, ever so slowly, gravity and time will "sag" the magnet back again into the middle of the cone.
If you still break your speakers in your car, leaving them face down or up, that they have bumped out of their positions anyway, chances are that the speakers are not your main concern by then, but moreso your personal injury. A car accident has occured, and you definitely gives a **** about any speaker or gear.
It's better to either turn your speakers/combo either face down or face up because:
1. Gravitational pull/push when driving over ANY light bump in the road.
2. The magnet in the cone/cones are used to moving in and out of the center of the cone anyway, when having sound. It's best to leave them in that floating condition, so that they move accordingly whenever a gravitational pull/push is exerted to them. They will move up or down but still in the middle of the cone!
3. If you transport them standing up, just as they were set on a stage, you exert gravitational pull/push to the cone from the side/side of the magnet, making them to want to move up/down instead of in/out. They have no slack space to do this at all, so in the long run, the magnet will cause the whole speaker to sag, and the magnet will end up NOT being in the middle of the cone anymore. You will hear it first, it's like not tightening the screws to the spider in which the speaker is tightened to. In the end it will rip your cone, and you will have to have it reconed. It's not a long winded one. Real professional touring bands roadies loads their speakers in their flight cases with - actually - face up.
4. I've even heard that time/gravity does this to stationary subwoofers in large PA systems in clubs. Then the "technical in charge" person brings them out, goes into them and just turn them around. Unscrew all screws and turn on the speaker "spider" a half turn. Then, ever so slowly, gravity and time will "sag" the magnet back again into the middle of the cone.
If you still break your speakers in your car, leaving them face down or up, that they have bumped out of their positions anyway, chances are that the speakers are not your main concern by then, but moreso your personal injury. A car accident has occured, and you definitely gives a **** about any speaker or gear.
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3. If you transport them standing up, just as they were set on a stage, you exert gravitational pull/push to the cone from the side/side of the magnet, making them to want to move up/down instead of in/out. They have no slack space to do this at all, so in the long run, the magnet will cause the whole speaker to sag, and the magnet will end up NOT being in the middle of the cone anymore. You will hear it first, it's like not tightening the screws to the spider in which the speaker is tightened to. In the end it will rip your cone, and you will have to have it reconed. It's not a long winded one. Real professional touring bands roadies loads their speakers in their flight cases with - actually - face up.
Nah. In the real touring world speakers are transported in whatever way makes the truck pack easiest, typically standing up as most of them take up less floor space that way. Line array boxes are usually dropped directly out of the sky onto a cart 4 high and rolled directly onto the truck. Trust me, no one is turning them so the drivers are facing up or down. I've never seen anyone transport PA or backline speakers face up in over 20 years of pro audio experience unless that was the way they rolled and stacked best.
The effects of gravity on drivers are way overblown in some circles. It really isn't anything to worry about.
Also, please ignore this if you were kidding.
I've encountered once, one who blowed his 15 inch, when stacked the best way. It was a bumpy road. The time sag and gravity MAY be a thing of the past, with old and heavy duty 15-18 inch woofers.
When we came to the gig, we figured out that the speaker sounded the best when laying on its back speaker facing up to the sky. We miked it up that way! The coil - whenever pushed outwards when there was a transient and pick attack from the bass - retracted faster (it went back faster) due/thanks to the help of the gravity. However as fast we raised it up to normal lever and turned on it, the coild didn't went inwards as fast. It sounded horrid to, with a great deal of buzzing. No guitar amp or speaker suffered from this, that took the same ride. No it's not a joke. Todays huge PA systems are of a different kind with their neodymium speakers and no heavy duty at all.
Whatever you say about stacking it the best. With a set power cord that isn't detachable it's a bitch to load and stack them the most efficient way, anyway.
When we came to the gig, we figured out that the speaker sounded the best when laying on its back speaker facing up to the sky. We miked it up that way! The coil - whenever pushed outwards when there was a transient and pick attack from the bass - retracted faster (it went back faster) due/thanks to the help of the gravity. However as fast we raised it up to normal lever and turned on it, the coild didn't went inwards as fast. It sounded horrid to, with a great deal of buzzing. No guitar amp or speaker suffered from this, that took the same ride. No it's not a joke. Todays huge PA systems are of a different kind with their neodymium speakers and no heavy duty at all.
Whatever you say about stacking it the best. With a set power cord that isn't detachable it's a bitch to load and stack them the most efficient way, anyway.
I definitely predate neo speakers and lightweight power amps. The stuff I started doing sound on was old modular Martin and JBL stuff with HH V-800 and original QSC MX1500 power amps. I.e. extremely heavy duty, with emphasis on "heavy."
No argument on the detachable power cables, though.
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Speaker "sag" hadn't been an issue in MI/pro audio speakers since most of you (except for us grumpy old farts) have been born. It's another myth that won't die!
