Agreed. Likely ties into my theory about how we changed after roughly 12k yrs ago
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Developing Light Skin in Europe
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gobekli tepe is a good example of things we're discovering that are changing our understanding of what humans were like prior to the- "nothing is more than 5000 yrs old" ideas that were established by theologian/archeologists over 100 yrs ago.
Think I'll leave that for you to determine, if you don't mind
Oh, well,....if it's up to me,...."our people" means homosapiens.
I love anthropology. It really kind of brings us together rather than all of the dividing we like to do lately. We all have the same history whether we like it or not. 
What are we going to beat each other up over once there's basically one skin tone on the planet again? We're not a very bright species sometimes. We'll come up with something.
That said, what we really need to be studying (particularly here in Western cultures) is how we ATE for a few million years before we got so "smart". For the longest time we survived on one meal a day (or every two or three days) consisting of animal products (nose to tail). Seasonally, we ate a little fruit (that wasn't NEARLY as sugary as the genetically modified garbage we call fruit today). And sometimes we survived on tubers and a few other plants when we couldn't find meat.
Thanks to nut jobs like Kellog and a few others we reversed that and started eating processed junk.
We're all wired the same. And we're NOT wired to eat oatmeal and smoothies. Ever.
But, again, my favorite part of discussions like this is that it shines a light on how similar we are rather than how different. Knowing that the first humans were dark skinned, and that Jesus wasn't a white dude with long, flowing, straight hair doesn't bother me at all. Our history is what binds us together. And Jesus being a different color than my pasty white butt changes nothing. He was freaking Jesus, ya know? What he said and did matters. I'm trying harder and harder to get to the point that I view every human that way.
Sorry if I crossed a line bringing up Jesus. Even for non believers he's a historical figure so.... Feel free to clean this up or message me and I will.
What are we going to beat each other up over once there's basically one skin tone on the planet again? We're not a very bright species sometimes. We'll come up with something.
That said, what we really need to be studying (particularly here in Western cultures) is how we ATE for a few million years before we got so "smart". For the longest time we survived on one meal a day (or every two or three days) consisting of animal products (nose to tail). Seasonally, we ate a little fruit (that wasn't NEARLY as sugary as the genetically modified garbage we call fruit today). And sometimes we survived on tubers and a few other plants when we couldn't find meat.
Thanks to nut jobs like Kellog and a few others we reversed that and started eating processed junk.
We're all wired the same. And we're NOT wired to eat oatmeal and smoothies. Ever.
But, again, my favorite part of discussions like this is that it shines a light on how similar we are rather than how different. Knowing that the first humans were dark skinned, and that Jesus wasn't a white dude with long, flowing, straight hair doesn't bother me at all. Our history is what binds us together. And Jesus being a different color than my pasty white butt changes nothing. He was freaking Jesus, ya know? What he said and did matters. I'm trying harder and harder to get to the point that I view every human that way.
Sorry if I crossed a line bringing up Jesus. Even for non believers he's a historical figure so.... Feel free to clean this up or message me and I will.
Gaolee
Official leathers tester and crash dummy
That's it! And in Seattle, my wife isn't. Now i know why she basks in the sun and I don't.
Gaolee
Official leathers tester and crash dummy
Vitamin D deficiency will damage your ability to reproduce. Skin cancer is later. In prehistoric times, probably after something else killed you anyway. So, no evolutionary problem there.
Gaolee
Official leathers tester and crash dummy
The historic Jesus, or more likely Jeshua, probably looked like a modern Ethiopian or maybe Egyptian. He certainly wasn't a Swede!I love anthropology. It really kind of brings us together rather than all of the dividing we like to do lately. We all have the same history whether we like it or not.
What are we going to beat each other up over once there's basically one skin tone on the planet again? We're not a very bright species sometimes. We'll come up with something.
That said, what we really need to be studying (particularly here in Western cultures) is how we ATE for a few million years before we got so "smart". For the longest time we survived on one meal a day (or every two or three days) consisting of animal products (nose to tail). Seasonally, we ate a little fruit (that wasn't NEARLY as sugary as the genetically modified garbage we call fruit today). And sometimes we survived on tubers and a few other plants when we couldn't find meat.
Thanks to nut jobs like Kellog and a few others we reversed that and started eating processed junk.
We're all wired the same. And we're NOT wired to eat oatmeal and smoothies. Ever.
But, again, my favorite part of discussions like this is that it shines a light on how similar we are rather than how different. Knowing that the first humans were dark skinned, and that Jesus wasn't a white dude with long, flowing, straight hair doesn't bother me at all. Our history is what binds us together. And Jesus being a different color than my pasty white butt changes nothing. He was freaking Jesus, ya know? What he said and did matters. I'm trying harder and harder to get to the point that I view every human that way.
Sorry if I crossed a line bringing up Jesus. Even for non believers he's a historical figure so.... Feel free to clean this up or message me and I will.
In future eaters, Tim Flannery reasons that there was a distinct shift in skin color, determined primarily by the tides. We were, he argues, early on, land-based organisms, fearing the great water, and all our sustenance therefore, whether we were hunting, gathering, or farming, was gained during the cooler hours, from the land, when life is easier.
Melanin is released to form darker skin as a protection against radiation, as is revealed in OP's clip. But, when your culture has been forced to the margins, because of population growth, over time, the oceans become your hunting grounds, as a matter of course. Here, you are governed, not by the sun, the dusk and dawn, but by the tides, especially before you learn watercraft tech., where you still must act as land-based organisms.
So, when the tide's low, and it's the middle of the day, you can't afford yourself the luxury of a siesta, ceasing your farming, hunting, and gathering, for a while. Out you must go, into the shallows, with the sun belting down upon you, in order that you may gain your sustenance and feed your village.
Our people, those who stem from these coastal cultures, keep nothing back. All their melanin is released — this is documented — so they can better survive the radiation. Furthermore, the extraordinarily rich protein diet, gleaned especially by fisherfolk, presents us with some very interesting, somewhat novel potentials, like leisure-time, and, consequently, art production — or so the story goes
Unless there are some scientific studies to back it up, the vitamin D situation explains it best to me.
Science is the vantage point, from what I can gather
(Documented thoroughly in future eaters ) There is no contradistinction. It's a co-evolution
Science is the vantage point, from what I can gather
I’ll take your word. I don’t know enough about it to argue.
There's one for the accidental band name thread (or it would at least be a killer prog rock album title
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There's one for the accidental band name thread (or it would at least be a killer prog rock album title
What about the fact that Jimmy cracked corn?Agreed. And I don't care.
At some point we have to stop sweeping this under the rug, like it's not a big deal.
it's what we do to each other while we're 'waiting' that concerns me most.per the OP: call 'em "earth tones!"
what's not to like!?
Apparently, the ice age almost wiped out the human race, reducing the entire human population down to approximately two thousand breeding pairs, on the entire planet.
If those hardy folk only survived, by fighting their competition for resources, and we're all descended from those 2000, then it stands to reason that we'd all have inherited the distilled a-hole / survivor gene (trait).
